VA - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, Norfolk, 3 March 2015 #2

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  1. Hoosgirl

    Hoosgirl Well-Known Member

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    Klily, I know Kenny works closely with LE. Can he share any more info about this change in last seen and what it's about? I assume he got it straight from Norfolk PD as our WS member here did, but would be great to confirm. Thanks for all HSTNG does!
     
  2. sallye818

    sallye818 Well-Known Member

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    BBM above...this is an excellent thought.
     
  3. hey-Debbie

    hey-Debbie Well-Known Member

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    I was making the comment that on the picture that was posted from HSTNG it says "MISSING: AJ HADSELL, was last seen between the evening hours of March 2, 2015 and morning hours of March 3, 2015 in the TARRALLTON AREA of Norfolk, Va. If you know the whereabouts of AJ please contact the Norfolk Police Department at (757) 664-7026. #helpsavethenextgirl #bringajhome" https://www.facebook.com/SaveTheNex...8701238821410/941412549216939/?type=1&theater

    Last seen between the evening hours of...this statement changes the previous statements made by Bring AJ Home FB page and WH's interview statements. I also thought I remember seeing a picture of this same photo that HSTNG shared on their website. I just don't see it anymore. That is why I thought that maybe the admin of the site removed the HSTNG photo from their site because it has a conflicting timeline. Maybe they didn't want people to recognize the differences in those statements.
     
  4. spamelope

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    IF there was a meeting at the gas station that went on for so long he was late back to work, how did he forget this happened for over a week? I don't believe this meeting took place.
     
  5. mel123

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    I do want to say if you had anything to do with this, anyone, if you can hear these words: you will be brought to justice whether legitimately or not.

    This sounds like a threat to me. I do not feel he would make a threat to someone he belives did something to AJ unless he is telling the truth. It is documented if something ever happens to that person he will be the first suspect.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1025uXR2A4W5cOl08c74yyTAfnP2z2upQdFdywZTtyEw/edit?pli=1
     
  6. FindHG

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    Reviewed, but still catching up. You WSers are a steady bunch, as the facts pour out like a smoothie out of blender, in trying to find gorgeous, smart and sporty AJ. Thank you for your great considerations.

    If I'm reading it right, Ontario Mom's emphasis on the last contact AJ had on her phone, prior to the 7 am time she was last reported to have been seen by her family members, does really stick out. 10 pm the night before, does stick out, but there could be innocuous explanations.

    "She was last see between the evening hours of March 2, and the morning hours of March 3." Sjm_qc LE Query

    Her step-dad, I realize is grasping at straws, naturally, as I would too if my kid were missing, yet led an effort that actually found evidence. I'm trying to keep an open mind and not to be blind to the truth of where AJ may be, and hope LE has a lot more information as they proceed. As such, I'm not able to overlook my quibble with the intent of AJ's step-dad's out reach. He seems, even after the most uncritical ways of looking at how things played, to me, to be misdirecting, lashing out, probing and con-temporizing his statements as the days move on. That confuses things.

    For example:
    At this point, it seems the amount of money he spoke of having been given to AJ, $200, along with the $100 she was given the week before, may be a contemporization, or streamlining the timeline to fit, if you will, to lead one to think she may have run away. I'm not sure why as to the intent of this, and LE hasn't treated this like a run-away case, it seems to me. I hope I'm wrong and AJ is taking some time someplace safe, alive at least.

    The debit card in pieces; step dad's account of the handing out "some cash;" the lack of SM the night prior; the lack of anyone having seen her after 7 am, at first; then, when you consider that LE knows of the step dad and AJ's exchange at the gas station, and his account of handing out "some cash" as well, says something.

    This scenario is starting to seem plausible to me, AJ may have had her phone and access to cash restricted, maybe some brewing argument that came to a head, cards were cut up (maybe thrown out later), phones were shut off, ultimatums may have been spoken, silence and anger, I'm making wild guesses. It shouldn't be so. AJ's family want to find her, so it would help if AJ's dad, their spokesman, came off as trust-worthy and not suspicious. I hope that can change for her sake.
     
  7. klily444

    klily444 Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm afraid not. LE has been very tight lipped in this case, as we've all been experiencing. :(

    As yes, many thanks to Kenny and HSTNG!!


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  8. klily444

    klily444 Well-Known Member

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    It's possible the admin did remove the flier; I am not sure. Maybe the family and LE aren't in agreement on the timeline for who knows what reason.


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  9. DexterMorgan

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    So if the neighbor seen the white car pass by then why no gender and race and somewhat age description of the driver? Since he was right there he should have been able to say something about the driver. Especially since he was able to notice AJ driving with a purpose.
     
  10. klily444

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    On the flip side, if there is no one but himself who knows that happened to AJ, he wouldn't be threatening anyone but himself :) just a thought ..


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  11. mel123

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    You are very right!
     
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    Spokesperson?
     
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    It is, you're right, if that person exists. I wondered how he could do that in public and feel safe doing it? A few possibilities sprang to mind:

    1. He's hot headed enough to not know the consequences of what he said, in the heat of the moment, seems natural, arguably under the circumstances and the unprofessional tenor of the interview format, so to be taken with a grain of salt, and in context. A parent would be going through the list of suspects in their head constantly in such a case, naturally, I imagine. I imagine, I would feel like AJ?'s step-dad, certainly, but I would have used my words more wisely to advance finding my child.

    2. He knows for sure that person doesn't exist.

    3. He knows for sure who that person is and it's a hollow threat like #2, as opposed to #1
     
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    Thank you very much! You're all three terrific to do this.
     
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    "a minute or minute and a half later he recognized a white small compact car following her" - WH

    How is a car that is a MINUTE behind her following her? That's a long time IMO.
     
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    Respectfully snipped*
    Building on your train of thought, didn't they find cash in the glove box of the truck?
     
  17. adot0902

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    I 100% do not think this young girl partook in the drug scene, however if she didn't usually partake wouldn't she be more likely to OD?
    Her body would not be use to the drugs and therefore someone with less tolerance (a new/first time drug trier) would OD long before a hard core drug user would.
    Again I 100% do not think this is what happened, especially while she was home from college, but you never know.
     
  18. hey-Debbie

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    Hey, lets see if we can come up with some theories on what happened to her if say something did happen after the hours of 7am that morning and when the daughter came home. I still am having trouble getting out of my mind that this kid said he actually saw AJ (they saw each other) though.

    If something did happen to her after 10:30pm there are 3 other siblings in the house that might have heard a struggle. We can say that him bringing the truck home and dropping it off was a set up to use in the cover up. I wonder if the red truck is WH's personal truck. Also still cannot verify mom's place of employment that she actually was gone from the home all day. Maybe mom was the one that picked WH up after the truck was dropped off. No one has been stated who was WH's ride after he dropped off the truck. Maybe it was JH. I'm sure that if someone spotted her they wouldn't have thought twice about it as she belongs there. No one has come forward as a witness to WH dropping off the truck which means that most likely no one can say who actually picked him up. So I guess one of them has AJ's phone. The NPD are going to be able to tell the area her phone was in by those pings. So someone is going to have to drag that phone around with them actually giving AJ's phone an alibi. The parents have already said in public statements that they texted her last Tuesday early morning but not sure if it was her so someone had to have been doing the texting for AJ (one of her parents? Another accomplice driving the white car?) So now we have to get AJ's body (sorry this is harsh) out of the house right?! How? They would have to do it under the cover of darkness. Maybe Monday night in the middle of the night? That's why they actually didn't report her missing to NPD until Tuesday evening. They had to buy time. There are other kids in the house so that's not going to be easy to hide evidence or remove a body. Nor would getting a body out of a house in broad daylight without something seeming suspicious. The white car didn't stay long at the house that afternoon either because the daughter said it was gone when she got home and the witness places it there after 2pm. That 22 minute window period.

    I'm stumped on the phone thing. It's going to be traced. It was on Monday night into the early am Tuesday. Who has the phone?
     
  19. darring21

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    Could she have gotten in a fight with her mom about money? Perhaps her phone was taken? So, she turned to her step dad for money? Maybe she no longer had a car because her mom now needed it due to their separation? Could she have gone for a walk to blow off steam and get away from her mom? Did the step dad not want to reveal meeting and giving her money because the mom would not approve? Not trying to make her Mom sound bad - raising kids is tough and her actions may have been very appropriate.

    Still a lot of holes in his story but are we confusing a complete lack of communication skills with guilt?
     
  20. JnRyan

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    All of a sudden we have a blank on the driver. We don't even know how long the car was there or what the driver did. BIG question right there. OR did they see the red truck earlier and ASSUMED AJ was driving it?
     
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