VA VA - Annandale, WhtFem 245UFVA, ~60, 'NO CODE, DNR, No Penicillin', Dec'96 #2

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  1. lizziginne

    lizziginne Well-Known Member

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    The scar is a laparotomy scar, not a vertical c-section. Classical cesarian sections typically do not extend above the umbilicus. This isn't to say she didn't have a c-section scar before her laparotomy.
    There are multiple reasons for a full length incisional laparotomy, particularly in the times prior to laprascopic surgery becoming more readily available. Any intraabdominal cancer or infection would usually require such a large incision for access.

    I'm a doctor who has seen a lot of scars!
     
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    lizziginne Well-Known Member

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    The scar is a laparotomy scar, not a vertical c-section. Classical cesarian sections typically do not extend above the umbilicus. This isn't to say she didn't have a c-section scar before her laparotomy.
    There are multiple reasons for a full length incisional laparotomy, particularly in the times prior to laprascopic surgery becoming more readily available. Any intraabdominal cancer or infection would usually require such a large incision for access.

    I'm a doctor who has seen a lot of scars!
     
  3. Zahreenuh

    Zahreenuh Mama Hen

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    Heard about this case in a Facebook group I’m in. What an interesting case. Obviously she took things with her that were sentimental and wanted to “enjoy” her ultimate death comfortably. I wonder if she was struggling mentally. Or perhaps. Just depressed. The scar is definitely strange. I don’t think c section at all.
    I feel like there is a bit of clues of everything she brought that is important to her and is about her. The Fanny pack is interesting. Perhaps it is a childhood memory?
     
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    Has Jaqueline Ann Gasperian, missing from California been excluded as a match? I’ve looked but I can’t find anything.
     
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    I was recently watching a show that mentioned the Hemlock Society, which is an assisted suicide and right-to-die group.

    It mentioned specifically that one of the methods of suicide is to take a large amount of pills and suffocate yourself with a plastic bag. The idea is to let the carbon monoxide build up inside the bag by leaving room to breathe the recycled air in.

    Anyways, just thought I would add that along with suicide manuals and Heavens Gate which was also mentioned in this thread.

    Hemlock Society - Wikipedia
     
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    Hope32 Mainly Lurker Sometimes Sleuther

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    Namus has around 700 people that are excluded. From a quick search through the pages.... No she has not...
     
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    Doesn't quite match to my eye, UIDs scar goes around her umbilicus very obviously but Jacqueline's doesn't.
    However, given the time line I don't think you could fully exclude it, scars change a lot over time and as people age/weight fluctuates etc
     
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    I suppose it does indicate there's enough ambiguity that we can't rule out Ms. Gasperian based on height--and that seems to be the only discrepancy. Not that there's a lot to go on.
     
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    Bit of hope Have a nice day!

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    Although I have been around for a while IIRR I never saw this before. In my mind this lady was around 5'0. Interesting.....
     
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