VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #12

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  1. Coquette

    Coquette Observer

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    My thoughts on this charge....

    They have evidence that Hannah was in JM's car and perhaps his apartment. They have evidence that he possessed the date rape drug. They have a witness at Tempo that saw him slip something into her drink. This could explain the charge of abduction with the intent to defile. People have mentioned video or texts of a sexual nature. That makes sense to me as well.

    Again, just my thoughts.

    At least they have something with some teeth.
     


  2. aa9511

    aa9511 New Member

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    Can someone please give me a quick summary on who Jessie Matthews is? Is it the Black dreadlocks guy? TIA.
     
  3. MaedchenX

    MaedchenX It's business time.

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    Thank you for this. I highly encourage people to look through these other cases. It is pretty enlightening on what LE may, or may not know at the moment.
     
  4. Lava

    Lava Well-Known Member

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    Target is a good word! Unfortunately, she did look like one, not just for people looking for a sex trafficking victim.
     
  5. wxbqscotty

    wxbqscotty Member

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    Folks, it just got good.

    Thank you Chief Longo, the Commonwealth Attorney, dispatchers, volunteers, and everyone trying to help. I raise my glass to you! Prayers that ppl will be cautious in their own day lives and keep their eyes open for the wanted man.
     
  6. Le Singe

    Le Singe Well-Known Member

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    does it really matter its what almost certainly happened after that, that is the biggest issue.
     
  7. Eileen730

    Eileen730 Former Member

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    What is so scary is....
    didn't someone say there were pl getting in and out of the car?
     
  8. ClueingForLooks

    ClueingForLooks New Member

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    Haven't analysts and commentators been saying that LE's behaviour in this case has not been "typical"? Looks reckless to me. I really hope the guy is truly guilty considering they've destroyed his life ATM.
     
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  10. Hiandmighty

    Hiandmighty Well-Known Member

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    Yes. On video following her by Sal's and walking with her in video from jewelers.
     
  11. NatalieLouiseXx

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    Yes. The guy on the CCTV.
     
  12. kwash

    kwash Active Member

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    This is what I am thinking. The circumstances depicted in the video + eyewitness accounts that suggest she was 'in distress' and did not know the suspect (and therefore would not have willingly gone with him) = the charge.
     
  13. bestill

    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    If you haven't been corrected it's "intent to defile". I made the same mistake earlier.
     
  14. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps the clothing was hidden away in an area LE had not put on the Search Warrants originally...

    So they had to get a SW with precise places they suspected could be hiding places....

    For instance... Under floorboards... In the walls... Etc...

    Just some thoughts...
     
  15. Eileen730

    Eileen730 Former Member

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    Yes he is!
     
  16. Lava

    Lava Well-Known Member

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    Umm...yes? That is kind of what we discuss here. Not just the end result of a case, but all aspects of it.
     
  17. Limecat

    Limecat Lime + Cat = Limecat

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    Hi everyone... I've spent a good part of the day here trying to "catch up" on everything but I left for awhile and came home to find JM is now suspected of abduction! Of course I missed the PC. Is there a transcript available? I saw a link for the video but I can't watch video atm. Thank you to you all for the informative posts.

    God bless Hannah and her family.
     
  18. Chelly

    Chelly Always Remember Teghan Skiba

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    Apologies if this has already been discussed, but why didn't police detain Matthew when they were following him around and had him in their sights?
     
  19. ATasteOfHoney

    ATasteOfHoney Well-Known Member

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    Or one could simply study the empirical research studies on crime like the 2010 FBI Crime Stats report (for instance) and then address if your own "biases" have merit. You know, take the emotionalism out of it and choose the analytical approach. 'Just a suggestion. It works for me.
     
  20. seejanecomment

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    JMO..I don't think this case involves a trafficking ring. To somewhat echo what others have said, I think it's possible JM texted someone telling him/her that he had "picked up" (possibly drunk and/or drugged) HG and, maybe even jokingly, said he planned to engage in some sort of sexual act with her. If she were under the influence and he was guiding her by holding her waist, it could be seen as abduction. JMO
     
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