VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #12

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  1. BloodshotEye

    BloodshotEye New Member

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    Question for forensic specialists out there:
    Can the forensic evidence from the interior of the car, be differentiated - so as to be confident (weasel word) , that the physical evidence is not merely from transfer of fibers from HG to JM - and subsequently from JM to his vehicle's seats, etc.
    Simply finding fibers on the passenger seat of JM's vehicle, doesn't seem to reliable. Quite often, I need to sit in the passenger seat of my own car, to find something, load the car, etc.

    Potential opportunities for transfer of physical evidence:
    There are eye witnesses, who have seen HG and JM walking side-by-side. And, according to witnesses, at one point, JM had an arm around HG's waist. By the limited description of what was casually seen through the window of the car (flip flops in the window), it doesn't appear that JM took advantage of the time, to sanitize his car. Quite the opposite. In fact, the description of his car, caused one poster here in WS, to describe JM's vehicle as 'a forensic mess".

    The condition of interior of JM's vehicle, is the one issue, that keeps me from 'hopping over the fence', and agreeing that JM has something to hide.

    As others have, I am considering that is might be possible, that JM's DNA has been analyzed (screened if you will). And they know what they are dealing with. And based on that result, they are now challenged to obtain a sample, directly from JM. The current LE machinations would appear to revolve around that singular objective.
     


  2. wxbqscotty

    wxbqscotty Member

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    I am of the mind that anything can happen anywhere. Gun permits are issued almost every day. Your personal protection needs to be a priority. Future abductions can be prevented with an instrument invented in 1260 know as a firearm. Two words: Personal Responsibility
     
  3. SwampMama

    SwampMama Insomniac Extraordinaire

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    I don't understand what you mean by that. Evidence is essential. A conviction with no evidence is not easy to obtain and sometimes a conviction is hard enough to obtain, even with good evidence.
     
  4. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Alexis' case began with same two charges, no? And no "sex ring" or trafficking there, Imo...
     
  5. Le Singe

    Le Singe Well-Known Member

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    ok, that makes sense then. Its just that the fact that he ran away from the surveillance has been front and center of the talk.
     
  6. Sjm_qc

    Sjm_qc Well-Known Member

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    He did, right at the end when a reporter asked, and he apologised for not saying it earlier in his remarks.
     
  7. LarkBunting

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    I think they either haven't tested his DNA against the DNA of MH's killer, yet, or they have & aren't releasing that info., yet.

    If they had tested it & it came back NOT a match, I think they'd release that info. to the public to quell the rumors, potential mass panic, distracting stories...

    Now, if they've tested it & it WAS a match, not only to Hannah's case, but also to other cases, I'm torn. I lean towards them keeping it quiet for now so no lynch mob forms & finds JM before LE does, but then again, don't the police have a duty to warn the public? I don't know what to think.

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  8. MaedchenX

    MaedchenX It's business time.

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    I think this is a really good theory.
     
  9. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    To me it sounds like he is in a different phase of the investigation and is not making a direct appeal to the suspect at this time.

    Longo has 13 years as chief of police, handling several high profile cases and he is known to be an excellent public speaker. IMO everything this man does is calculated. He's not losing his head here. And while so many seem to believe everything he says is for their benefit, it's not. Some of what he says and does is very likely a specific message to the suspect or witnesses, etc.

    I've researched. It seems this is a very intelligent, driven officer. I looked hard to find anything to support what I see is a real negative perception (on the part of some here) of this officer and his methods but I found nothing in his record or any statements by any colleagues or even critics to substantiate the inference that he is a buffoon trying to somehow create a circus for some inexplicable reason or railroad an innocent man or whatever. Nothing.
     
  10. GhostGhost

    GhostGhost Well-Known Member

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    He was convicted of Tresspassing after being warned.

    He has Assault and Grand Larceny charges (not convictions), but you see him routinely getting five continuances and making it hard on witnesses.

    A Courtroom Veteran.

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  11. eileenhawkeye

    eileenhawkeye Well-Known Member

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    So they do not even need someone to say they saw Hannah being forced in the car? Aren't most cases where the defendant turns out to be innocent due to faulty eyewitnesses?
     
  12. Perplexed 123

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    Amy Bradley?
     
  13. Topcat

    Topcat snooper

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    If the date rape/roofies were present a drug charge would have been added to the warrant.
     
  14. Lava

    Lava Well-Known Member

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    They did not have enough evidence at the time. I believe Longo just said today that the commonwealth (The DA basically) as agreed that now there is enough Probable Cause.
     
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    Guys, anyone have links for the 2 previous longer press conferences? Thank you.
     
  16. sonicfanaticsmommy

    sonicfanaticsmommy Former Member

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    Where is Hannah????? Where could this man have left/put her that no one can figure out????? Heartbreaking. :(
     
  17. daily

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    Thx for the reply. Personally, im waiting for actual hard evidence of his guilt. It just seems like 'new evidence' isnt required for these new charges. I want to wait and see what they found from searches, if anything.
     
  18. Justice101

    Justice101 Well-Known Member

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    Nail...meet Head. DEAD ON!
     
  19. sallye818

    sallye818 Well-Known Member

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    2Hope4...Yes :( I was thinking the same thing...same charges that started out RAT in the Alexis Murphy case. Was so hoping it wouldn't go this direction.
     
  20. wxbqscotty

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    http://vimeo.com/cvilletv10
     
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