VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #12

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  1. jojo87

    jojo87 New Member

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    I have a feeling that even if they get this guy he isn't going to do a lot of talking. Hopefully forensics will speak instead JMO
     
  2. DavidC

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    I have no confidence that I can break through your ironclad position regarding this case. I won't even try. We will just have to agree to disagree. :)


     
  3. helpfindhannah

    helpfindhannah Member

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  4. absentia

    absentia Active Member

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    "§ 18.2-48. Abduction with intent to extort money or for immoral purpose.

    Abduction (i) of any person with the intent to extort money or pecuniary benefit, (ii) of any person with intent to defile such person, (iii) of any child under sixteen years of age for the purpose of concubinage or prostitution, (iv) of any person for the purpose of prostitution, or (v) of any minor for the purpose of manufacturing child pornography shall be punishable as a Class 2 felony. If the sentence imposed for a violation of (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) includes a term of confinement less than life imprisonment, the judge shall impose, in addition to any active sentence, a suspended sentence of no less than 40 years. This suspended sentence shall be suspended for the remainder of the defendant's life subject to revocation by the court.

    (Code 1950, § 18.1-38; 1960, c. 358; 1966, c. 214; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1993, c. 317; 1997, c. 747; 2006, cc. 853, 914; 2011, c. 785.)

    https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-48"

    this does not sound like rape or murder to me.
     
  5. Lava

    Lava Well-Known Member

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    This isn't a matter of opinion though lol. I am legitimately asking, what more have they given us to be called "open"??
     
  6. DavidC

    DavidC Member

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    It's possible she is alive. It just isn't likely. I'm sorry. :-(
     
  7. ksj3

    ksj3 New Member

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    Do you know what field?
     
  8. MaedchenX

    MaedchenX It's business time.

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  9. Lava

    Lava Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but what evidence would lead them here?
     
  10. SweetT

    SweetT Well-Known Member

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    No I didn't mean that but he would be in contact with others who might know what common items could be used as such
     
  11. ZsaZsa

    ZsaZsa Well-Known Member

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    Florida has Sunshine laws, which makes available a lot more information for public scrutiny. That wasn't a decision LE made
    regarding her case.
     
  12. Dee10

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    I thought he was very open on why he had to be vague at this point lol.
     
  13. kkdj

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    Personally, I don't think this has to do with trafficking or money. I think this originated with the intent of sexual gratification on JM's part. I think he saw her as vulnerable, seized the moment, and something ended up very bad. jmo of course. But I think its as cut and dry as that.
     
  14. Perplexed 123

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    a woman from Arlington Tx, kidnapped in broad daylight & sold in to prostitution. I'm not sure what class she was, but she had an SUV

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...ight-on-hidden-crime-of-human-trafficking.ece

    "What happened to the Arlington woman is not unprecedented, but kidnapping people to force them into prostitution is uncommon, experts say"
     
  15. Coquette

    Coquette Observer

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    May I suggest just ignoring those posts? Because there is a good chance we have all posted something that others feel that same way about - yourself included. We can't all appreciate every topic or opinion held here, IMO. We can however learn to be a wee bit more tolerant of others. Just a thought. :peace:
     
  16. Stones

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    Yeah, but haven't you seen the movie "Taken?" I'm kidding of course. I'm with you on this one. I really wish people would get off it, it makes this thread unbearable at times. The odds are so infinitely small that this is the case and unfortunately, the "intent to defile" thing seems to have people think that that's the legal term for kidnapping someone against their will, ship them away and then have them defiled by rich guys in other countries.
     
  17. MaedchenX

    MaedchenX It's business time.

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    I know. It was simply a statement acknowledging the other poster's position that there is good reason for LE to withhold information when they are not obligated to release it.
     
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    "Forensics; the voice for the innocent victims of the silent epidemic of the missing/murdered"...
     
  20. DavidC

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    Or.........they got something back that doesn't look good for making the case against Jesse Matthew.


     
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