VA VA - Katelin Akens, 19, Springfield, 5 Dec 2015 #1

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  1. kimi_SFC

    kimi_SFC Well-Known Member

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    The last flyer I shared had the weight correct IIRC

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  2. bessie

    bessie Verified Insider

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    FYI, no posts have been deleted today, except for a post which said posts have been deleted.

    Any deleted posts/comments were removed by posters, not mods.
     
  3. Tabirey

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    ITA ....I'm going to keep my theories to myself at the moment, but IMO, this is a huge possibility!
     
  4. Han

    Han Well-Known Member

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    I still think the last text was made by Kaitlen herself or someone who did not know her. The text is the type of statement that can immediately alarm the recipient causing them to get in touch with someone else close to Kaitlen. If the person sending the text is known to be with Kaitlen they would have exposed themselves through their statement.

    Maybe I'm giving too much credit for intelligence on the senders part. Lol
     
  5. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    Usually I would disagree with you , but seeing how her luggage was found less then 10 miles from the crime scene; then I might agree.

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  6. Han

    Han Well-Known Member

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    A nice graphic; potentially very informative.
     
  7. LaborDayRN

    LaborDayRN In a world where you can be anything, be kind

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    I can only say what I usually see in missing person flyers. Families will quite often disclose any issues IE: needs medication, has medical condition, autistic etc. Just my experience.
     
  8. Bsublime

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    I just wanted to point out that we don’t know that Fairfax County Police aren’t involved. We just know they aren’t talking. FC police department is notoriously non-communicative and there have been a lot of high profile court cases about how they refuse to provide information even under FOIA requests. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-officer-names-routinely-withheld-/?page=all

    Hoosier952 did a nice analysis of the timeline and showed she really didn’t have a lot of time to shop at the mall and someone earlier pointed out how young people are terrible at keep track of time.

    So what about this scenario:
    - KA says to SD drop me at the mall. I need to buy a Christmas gift for Amber.
    - SD drops her at the mall.
    - KA shops and doesn’t plan it all through. Is late getting to metro. Late getting to airport.
    - Texts mom that she got to airport (What time??? I think this is key) and then tries to check in and is told she is too late. She texts Amber “something came up and im not coming back today. Ill let you know when i get a new flight”
    - Works at the gate to get on a later flight (I have done this before. If you go standby they won’t charge you anything, but won’t guarantee anything).
    - Maybe she calls SD to come back to the airport to get her. He does and they fight the whole way home about how irresponsible she is and something bad happens.
    - He gets rid of her and her luggage after fight on way home


    Both texts make sense in this scenario.

    Was there a later flight? Did she have to wait until the next day? Did she leave the airport to look for somewhere to stay? Did she accept help from a stranger? Did she get an Uber or unlicensed cab? Maybe she didn’t want to tell mom and others because she didn’t want to hear a whole lecture about how irresponsible she was.

    If any of this scenario happened she should show up on camera. But I am thinking about the Heather Graham case and how they had a lot of footage of her walking through the streets and even getting picked up by Jesse Mathews. When did they release that footage? Maybe Fairfax and TSA are being closed mouthed as they go through all the footage and searches.


    It would be helpful to know what time both texts were sent to mom and GF
     
  9. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    That is a very thoughtful scenario. The only part I disagree with is the possibility that she tried to check in and/or tried to catch the later flight. If so, they would have had a record of her being at the gate. I don't think they had that.

    But I do think it is possible that she spent too long at the mall, tried to get to the airport fast, and ended up agreeing to catch a ride with someone. She could have thought things were fine, was riding towards the airport, but knew she was missing the 5:40 flight. So she texted Mom just to avoid the hassle, and then told Amber she was going to be late, because she assumed she could find a later flight when she checked in. But maybe the driver surprised her and it went bad.
     
  10. Han

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    As you pointed out finding someone on surveillance tape is a time-consuming task, difficult and painstaking. I'm sure that accounts for some of the lack of information.
     
  11. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    I did not make the map. It was made by another poster on this thread at my request. Yes, he did a remarkable job.
     
  12. ClaireNC

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    If she had messed up on time and missed her flight, I don't think she would have been so vague in her text to Amber. I got the impression that the texts to her mother and fiancee were one right after the other and then her phone was turned off. Why would she turn her phone off, if she had simply missed her flight?

    If Katelin was at the airport, they would have found the footage by now.

    IIRC they released the videos of Hannah Graham almost immediately after it was announced she went missing.
     
  13. cbs

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    I've been keeping up with everyone's posts throughout the case. I haven't commented until now. I just had a light go off. Maybe these texts were sent by Katelin while pleading for her life... maybe she told the abductor she was suppose to catch the flight etc attempting to scare him/her hinting people will be waiting for me looking for me etc. The abductor then possibly forced her to message Mom and Amber-- Katelin's messages may have been her cryptic cry for help.
     
  14. cbs

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    I also had a crazy thought, what if someone on this thread is Katelin.
     
  15. Tabirey

    Tabirey Music Addict

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    ITA, I don't think she sent either one. My opinion is that the text to Amber was sent so that Amber didn't get suspicious when Katelin was a no show, unfortunately for whoever did send the text, Amber got suspicious anyway. But that's JMO.
     
  16. ClaireNC

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    Great first post! Welcome cbs! I agree the text to Amber could have been a cryptic cry for help. And I believe Amber did react to it by contacting family members to find out what was going on. Very interesting thought...
     
  17. Tabirey

    Tabirey Music Addict

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    Actually, most community or technical colleges offer cosmetology degrees. My Aunt-in-law just retired from the local community college after teaching cosmetology for 20 yrs there.
     
  18. tiffay01

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    I agree...I just wonder why if it was a cry for help maybe moms wasn't more cryptic as well.
     
  19. ClaireNC

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    We don't really know what the text message to her mother said. Maybe it was cryptic but that just hasn't been released. Or maybe she felt that her mother wouldn't help her.
     
  20. Dockins

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    I don't understand why she would go to the mall. The airport has many stores, and a few that sell relatively cheap stuff. A lot of airports are like mini malls now. I don't know what to think.
     
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