VA VA - Michael, 50, Mary, 36, & Jennifer Short, 9, Bassett, 15 Aug 2002

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  1. JohnTate90210

    JohnTate90210 Well-Known Member

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    We know it involved crossing state lines, so that really gave the FBI more of an excuse to shove their way in.
     
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  2. JohnTate90210

    JohnTate90210 Well-Known Member

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    Does anybody know if they ever ruled the fire was the result of arson? If so, that would surely give them a new direction to explore. Possibly new footprints or vehicle sightings. One story mentioned police taking a gas can found in the backyard but, at that time, they didn't know if it was related. How fast was the house demolished afterwards?
     
  3. LR1

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    With A home invasion a murdered couple and a missing child who's life was obviously at stake you'd think they would have a small army of agents on scene shaking bushes and running down leads. It's obvious the local authorities were overwhelmed trying to both find Jennifer and also make sense of the type of crime they were dealing with.

    Unless something has changed in the last 48 hours, of the 250 odd cases where they're "seeking information" on both the fbi's main site and also Richmond's field office site, this case is not one of them. I think they've given up on this case ever being solved.
     
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  4. JohnTate90210

    JohnTate90210 Well-Known Member

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    I ran into a similar issue last week. I knew the Richmond office once had a page about the Short murders. They made a big deal of it when it went online. I looked and looked and it seems to be gone now.
     
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    Hmmm maybe it they may lost interest or perhaps it be deleted .
     
  6. LR1

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    They had that page up from 2008 to 2015. It started out with a poster with the basic details and was updated with the information about the truck and sketch of the person supposedly seen across the road that night and the info that came with that.

    Here's the three versions of the page as far as I can tell. 2008-2010-2015
    Federal Bureau of Investigation - Seeking Information - Jennifer Short
    Federal Bureau of Investigation - Seeking Information - Jennifer Short
    SHORT CASE INFORMATION

    It looks like they updated the site in 2016 and nothing on the case since.
     
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  7. LR1

    LR1 Well-Known Member

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    I did find this last week which was new to me. Nothing further reported that I've found.

    Roanoke Times 8-22-2002,

    Investigators on a double homicide and kidnapping in Henry County have seized an answering-machine tape from the home of victims Michael and Mary Short and sent it to the FBI for analysis because it appears to contain an obscene message, according to law enforcement sources close to the investigation.

    It was difficult for deputies to distinguish the words on the tape, the sources said. Police hope the FBI can enhance it and make the message more intelligible.
     
  8. Bromberg1973

    Bromberg1973 Former Member

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    I know where that is
    not really that remote.
     
  9. Bromberg1973

    Bromberg1973 Former Member

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    It's not remote. I know this area.
    There's a town and a super Walmart about 5 minutes away.
     
  10. Bromberg1973

    Bromberg1973 Former Member

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    It's not stoneville . It's Madison
     
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  11. Bromberg1973

    Bromberg1973 Former Member

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    The green circle is only about a hundred yards away from the Dan River. Which is a large body of water.
    There's a tubing shack right near by.
    They would have had plenty of customers in Aug 2002
     
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  12. Bromberg1973

    Bromberg1973 Former Member

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    We still nearby. We used to drive right by there. Every Sunday on our way to Eden for skate practice.
    I never knew until tonight exactly where she was found.
     
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  13. Bromberg1973

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    It looks like a small bridge. There's probably a drainage pipe under the bridge. I wonder what side of the bridge Jennifer was found on . The north side ? Or the South side ?
    This would give an indication of which direction the criminal was driving towards.
    I wouldn't think someone would want to carry a body across a road.
    Yeah it's a country road. But it's not that remote. There's a busy highway right near bye. Also An airport right down the street and a super wal mart about 5 minutes away. In Madison
    I'm surprised that she wasn't found sooner. There's alot of turkey vultures in this area. They had to be there. In large numbers. I can't believe no one seen it. I've been in this area many times.
    We still live near bye.
     
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  14. Bromberg1973

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    It's not Stoneville. It's Madison.
    Stoneville is up the road. A few miles away
     
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  15. Bromberg1973

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    Jennifer's memorial sign in on the north side of the bridge on Grogan road. So her body was probably found on the north side of the bridge. There's a small creek. And probably a drainage pipe under the road. Just like I thought.
    The killer crossed the bridge . Thought it was a good spot. Then turned around and dumped the body.on the north side of the bridge . Then headed back to 220 on River road. Probably on the same night . As her parents slayings
     
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  16. Bromberg1973

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    Obviously the killer was headed south on 220 to get away. And stopped at the route 311/135 Madison exit . Probably to get gas. (There's also a Lowes home store. Super Walmart . Gas stations , restaurants, banks ,etc at this exit. It's a busy area . River road is on both sides of the 311/135 exit. Obviously after getting gas the killer made their way to River road. Headed east about two miles ,then turned left onto Grogan road. And thats where the bridge is. ( there's a small creek and probably a drainage pipe under the bridge. )Jennifer's memorial sign is on the north side of the bridge . Which leads me to believe that her body was found on the north side of the bridge .which heads west. The killer probably crossed the bridge. Thought it was a good spot. So turned around and dumped the body. Then continued back west to US 220. Then South again. Probably to I-40 . Or to the Greensboro international airport.
    Probably on the same night that her parents died. Ive never been on River road . But I know exactly where it is.
    It does not have its own exit ramp.
    You have to use the 311/135 exit in Madison to get to the Grogan road.
    bridge. More then likely the guy that fled to Canada did not do this.
    There's also a campground. And a regional airport on River road. It's probably a busy country road during the daytime. Which is why her body was probably dumped on the same night that she was taken. The killer had to be in a hurry. Before it got light.
    We live near bye.
    But I've never been on River road .or Grogan road.
    When this first happened . In 2002. I remember hearing that Jennifer's mom may have been in a relationship with one of Jennifer's school teachers .
    But nothing ever came of it. ??
    Anyways this obviously was the escape route. And it all likely happened on the same night.
     
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  17. Bromberg1973

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    It would be nice to see a list of everyone that flew out of the Greensboro airport. On the 16th and 17th of August 2002. I wonder if any school teachers from Bassett VA flew out on those days. ?
     
  18. Bromberg1973

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    Grogan road is where she was found
     
  19. Bromberg1973

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    Cells phones were out in 2002.
    He being a business man . Probably did have one. I know I did.
    Just because the phone line was cut. Doesn't mean that it was cut that night. The phone company would know.
     
  20. Bromberg1973

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    He doesn't look like a drug dealer to me . Almost all drug dealers have a criminal record .
     
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