VA VA - Michael, 50, Mary, 36, & Jennifer Short, 9, Bassett, 15 Aug 2002

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We’re now approaching today as the Eve of 20 years of this case guys - the last day The Shorts has their normal day before tragedy happens on the night til the morning of 15th Aug
I am going to bolo for some new article saying how they have new information and not releasing anything to the public. It’s happened every year since.
 

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The Sheriff said that they normally get someone calling with a tip about something they don’t know about after The Jennifer Short bike ride. There’s a video on YT.
 

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Today at this hour 9:00am ( in my UK hour is 13:00pm) is now since a worker discovered Michael and Mary's bodies and little Jennifer is no where to be found in The Short's Bungalow. Today is the 20th Anniversary of this tragedy of the most beloved family, let pay our respect for them and say Amen.
 
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Danny Oakley and Bill Mills are the two other cases I'm referring to.

I am referring to Madison NC and the reason I'm saying that is because the person suspected used to gamble with Michael Short as well as Bill
Is there any evidence proving “said suspect” gambled with Danny Oakley and Bill Mills?
 

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No such thing as a .22 caliber shotgun; however, there are shotguns that also contain a separate .22 caliber barrel. I actually have one and it's an over/under, with the .22 caliber rifle on top, and the 20 gauge shotgun on the bottom. That's the only thing I can think of where they meant ".22 caliber shotgun."
 

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No such thing as a .22 caliber shotgun; however, there are shotguns that also contain a separate .22 caliber barrel. I actually have one and it's an over/under, with the .22 caliber rifle on top, and the 20 gauge shotgun on the bottom. That's the only thing I can think of where they meant ".22 caliber shotgun."
I was thinking that same thing
 

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I still just honestly think Michael was the reason for the brutal attack of this family. I think money was the motive.
But why take Jennifer? Why not just eliminate the entire family? Taking Jennifer was a huge risk. Also I've never thought money was the reason, since there was $600 in cash sitting on the kitchen counter.
 
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But why take Jennifer? Why not just eliminate the entire family? Taking Jennifer was a huge risk. Also I've never thought money was the reason, since there was $600 in cash sitting on the kitchen counter.
Maybe it was harder for them to kill a child and that's why they took her...to build up courage to do what they needed to do with her.

I have several working theories that make tons of sense if you hear them. I am not posting them here for the public though. So when I make small comments, they make no sense to others. But if you know what I know, it makes perfect sense.
 

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Yes, it was based on a description provided by a witness who saw a truck parked along the road near the Short's house on the night of the murders. She said she looked directly at him.
She was also hypnotized to remember everything so there’s no value in it. In my opinion.
 

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Very good news to hear that the task force has been granted funding to test hundreds of pieces of evidence using the latest technology, and to retest some items. I really feel like this crime will be solved using DNA testing. JMO
 

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Very good news to hear that the task force has been granted funding to test hundreds of pieces of evidence using the latest technology, and to retest some items. I really feel like this crime will be solved using DNA testing. JMO
We'll finger cross on this one, wish them luck.
 

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No such thing as a .22 caliber shotgun; however, there are shotguns that also contain a separate .22 caliber barrel. I actually have one and it's an over/under, with the .22 caliber rifle on top, and the 20 gauge shotgun on the bottom. That's the only thing I can think of where they meant ".22 caliber shotgun."
You can buy .22 caliber barrel inserts that convert a shotgun into a .22 caliber rifle. But your point is well taken, I find that reporters are generally ignorant about firearms, and make all sorts of stupid mistakes in their writing.
 

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How could someone have gotten away with such a horrific crime?
I think it comes down to 2 simple reasons. One was the police corruption obviously. They sounded inept too. But the main reason was the several dirtbags that were trying to pin it on Bowman early on for their own selfish reasons. Lemons was just wanting Bowmans trailer so he could turn around and sell it. And then Smapson, Mills, and Epperson were just looking for someone to blame the crime on so they could collect the reward money. They chose the town drunk. That set the investigation back at least 5 years.
 
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