VA - Michelle Moore-Bosko, 18, raped & murdered, Norfolk, 8 July 1997

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  1. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    Police were convinced that Michelle Moore-Bosko, a young Navy wife, was raped and murdered by eight men in her small Norfolk apartment in 1997 while her husband was away at sea. And five of them confessed.

    But Bosko's apartment showed no signs of mass attack, and the DNA left behind matched only one man: Omar A. Ballard, a convicted sex offender, who gave details of the killing and said he acted alone.

    The four others who confessed, all Navy sailors, later recanted but were convicted anyway, and three of them are serving life sentences. Today, three of "the Norfolk Four," as their attorneys call them, plan to ask outgoing Gov. Mark R. Warner (D) for clemency. The fourth sailor's request is pending.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/09/AR2005110902281.html?nav=rss_metro
     
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  3. aussiegran

    aussiegran New Member

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    I hope these men get another trial ,it sounds like they are innocent to me ,if I were on the jury I would have wanted to hear all the evidence about the investigator getting previous false statements and if there was someone who had an alibi for one of them they should have been a witness ,why werent
    they :confused: and with the DNA they matched to the murderer it sounds like they are are getting a bad rap.
    There seems to be very serious doubt of their guilt.
     
  4. michelle

    michelle Joy comes in the Morning

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    why in Gods green earth would they confess to a crime they didnt commit??
     
  5. Buzz Mills

    Buzz Mills New Member

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    It boggles the mind. Something about this case is missing. Maybe the NE will pick up the story and fill in some of the blanks.
     
  6. michelle

    michelle Joy comes in the Morning

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    does anyone have a link for this case? i dont remember hearing about this one?
     
  7. Details

    Details Former Member

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    People do confess to crimes they didn't commit all the time. The police lie (as they are allowed to - and it's a good thing because it gets many criminals to confess too) and claim they've got the evidence to convict, but if you confess, we'll lower the charges, you'll get off easier. It becomes a rational equation - continue to tell the truth, say you are innocent, and you go to jail for a very, very long time. Lie and you will go to jail for less time.

    This is a new law that needs to be made - maybe the supreme court can rule on this matter - but I think anytime, absolutely ANYTIME there is evidence of absolute innocence (and the fact that this new guy turns out to have done it, someone not in any of their confessions, proving those confessions were lies), that should always be admissible and cause for a new trial. Cut down the number of appeals for other reasons, but this is not about an appeal, and shouldn't ever be limited.
     
  8. blueclouds

    blueclouds Former member

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    There are literally countless occasions where police forced confessions is quite common. They use basic "torture" techniques including sleep deprivation, no food or drink, constant talking and bagering the "alleged perpetrator" and having him start to think he might have done it....

    I agree that if this is the evidence, they truly need a new trial or clemency.
     
  9. kgeaux

    kgeaux New Member

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    Michelle, this has been featured on one of the "true crime" shows, maybe Forensic Files. Can't quite remember which one!

    These guys sound innocent to me, and that impression was left with me after the show. I wish I could remember more details. If I find a link, I'll post it.
     
  10. michelle

    michelle Joy comes in the Morning

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    I know that police can force someone into a confession and it happens all the time, but 4 people into one, now thats crazy!!
     
  11. IdahoMom

    IdahoMom Former Member

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    What are the odds of that happening?

    For all those that hate defense attornies, this is a prime example why the accused need competent representation.
     
  12. Details

    Details Former Member

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    Yep, to point out why they might be innocent, or for the guilty, point out mitigating circumstances.

    Where I object to defense attorneys is when they try to get evidence proving guilt ignored, thrown out of court, try to make a truthful witness appear a liar, etc.

    No defense attorney should try to free the guilty, nor should any prosecutor try to imprison the innocent. This is not a game.
     
  13. PrayersForMaura

    PrayersForMaura Help Find Maura Murray

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    True Confessions?

    Three sailors once confessed to murdering a Navy wife. But another man's DNA is linked to the crime. Is this another case of innocents in prison?

    In the eight years since Carol Moore's daughter Michelle was brutally raped and murdered in Norfolk, Va., the holidays have always seemed to shine a spotlight on that empty chair at the table. This Thanksgiving was one of the worst.

    Just two weeks before the feast, three Navy sailors who had confessed to killing her daughter and are serving life sentences filed a petition maintaining their innocence and requesting a full pardon. Wounds Moore had hoped were slowly closing were ripped open again. She went through the motions of the holiday like a zombie, forgetting things, unable to focus, crying. She can't imagine those men going free. She knows they did it, because she heard them--as she listened to their taped confessions at the trials--describe the gruesome things they did to her daughter.

    "They're guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. That's it," Moore told TIME over the phone last week. "How could someone confess to something like that if they didn't do it?"

    But giving a false confession is precisely what the three sailors say they did do...

    More: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1137691,00.html?promoid=rss_top
     
  14. PrayersForMaura

    PrayersForMaura Help Find Maura Murray

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    Interesting...

    A Sordid Tragedy of Coerced Confession -- The Derek Tice Injustice Story


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    Investigator Ford: Q. State your full name.
    A. Omar Abdul Ballard.
    Q. Date of birth?
    A. 06/14/78
    Q. Social Security number?
    A. 222-48-1413
    Q. You're currently in the August County Penitentiary?
    A. Yes
    Q. How far did you go in school?
    A. Tenth grade.
    Q. Can you read and write?
    A. Yes.
    Q. I want you to tell me in your own words -- wait a minute, back up a second. I show you Norfolk Police Legal Rights Form PD 381 and ask you if you read and understand this form?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Did you mark yes to all seven questions on this form?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Is this your signature at the bottom of the form?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Understanding these legal rights, do you desire to make this statement?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Tell me in your own words what you know in reference to this offense. Start out at the beginning, go all the way through it.
    A. All right. I was at Karen and Kumani's house and I left to go to Tamika's house. Well, that was my intentions. I stopped at Michelle's house. You know, she told me that it was drinks in the refrigerator, and the phone was over in the corner if I needed to use it, and she went to the bedroom. I don't know what she was doing in the bedroom. I was sitting down drinking, so she came back out. We was talking. About half an hour, 45 minutes later, we went in the bedroom. We had sex. All right. I was getting up to leave, but she was still in the room, so when I was leaving, I don't know, I guess something just ticked in my head, and I went to the kitchen, got a knife, went back to the room. She was getting up off the bed or she was already up off the bed when I stabbed her in the chest one time. Then when she got on the floor, I think I stabbed her about two or three more times. I'm not quite sure. After that, I left the house and went to Tamika's house.

    "

    More: http://www.justicedenied.org/derecktice.htm
     
  15. Yaya

    Yaya Esse Quam Videri

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    I feel for the mother in this story. But after reading it all I can’t agree with her. I don’t think the three men are guilty. I too can’t understand why a man would confess to a crime he didn’t commit, but then I have never been interrogated for 13 hours. I would like to think my mind and will are stronger than that.

    It sounds like the three need to be let go.

    In March 1999, detectives finally got a DNA match after Omar Ballard, a convicted rapist and onetime acquaintance of Moore-Bosko's, confessed in a graphic letter to a friend that he had killed her. In his first audiotaped confession, given after just 20 minutes of questioning, Ballard described the rape with previously undisclosed details from the crime scene and said he had acted alone. Ballard changed his story at the behest of the detectives, the petition says, claiming he had perpetrated the crime along with four other men. In the petition, Ballard stands by his original claim that he had acted alone.
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1137691-3,00.html
     
  16. janice

    janice New Member

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    I remember hearing about this story. Are these guys still in prison?
     
  17. HRCODEPINK

    HRCODEPINK Verified Insider

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    3 of 'Norfolk Four' petitions rejected

    http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/norfolk/3-of-'norfolk-four'-petitions-rejected

    The men had asked the court to revive an appeal based on the corruption convictions of a former Norfolk detective.

    Norfolk Circuit Court Judge Everett Martin had ruled that the men missed their deadline for raising the claim.

    More procedural rules blocking justice...

    http://www.norfolkfour.com/

    Documentary on their case and confessions:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...aign=viewpage&utm_medium=grid&utm_source=grid
     
  18. ohiogirl

    ohiogirl New Member

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    Bah! This one makes me upset. It is obvious these convictions were wrong. Corrupt detective, false confessions, filed too late? Make an exception.
    I was talking about this one to my husband and he was totally unaware that LE could lie about dna, lie detector tests, all off it.
    He said he never would expect that he would ask for an attorney if he was being questioned about something that he was innocent of.
    This needs to be stresssed to all family members.
    GET AN ATTORNEY!
     
  19. Footwarrior

    Footwarrior Active Member

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    I would suggest showing [video=youtube;6wXkI4t7nuc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc[/video] to your husband. A law school professor explains exactly why you should never talk to the police.

    As for this case, Frontline: The Confessions has already been mentioned. There is some great information on that website about how a police interview can generate a false confession.
     
  20. HRCODEPINK

    HRCODEPINK Verified Insider

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    BBM

    Living in the Commonwealth of Virginia (Norfolk, at that!) I can assure you, we NEVER make exceptions. Especially to our timelines and 21 day rule. In the only case where I have ever seen an exception made to the 21-day rule, they did some sort of legal cha cha that released the man, but his conviction was not vacated and at any moment he could have been hauled back in to serve the rest of his sentence. He ended up being a total drug addict and put back in, so it didn't much matter in the end, but one thing you will never see is the Commonwealth just making exceptions. Remember: my state takes the position that "Evidence of Innocence is Irrelevant!"

    http://www.cstone.net/~vadp/21day.htm
     
  21. HRCODEPINK

    HRCODEPINK Verified Insider

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    I just want to mention that in this case, the men did receive a partial pardon (we don't absolutely pardon here in VA except in very rare cases. I can only think of one off of the top of my head, without digging.) They are no longer in prison and the efforts now in their appeals are just to completely clear their names, so they are no longer incarcerated. I figure that with as little information as there is on this thread, people may not be aware that they are out.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/us/07norfolk.html

    Here is another article about their denial this week:

    http://hamptonroads.com/2011/09/members-norfolk-four-rejected-va-high-court
     

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