VA - Trooper Chad Dermyer, 37, fatally shot, Richmond, 31 March 2016

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    I wish they would tell us who the shooter was. Getting mixed reports about Trooper, prayers for him and others shot.
     
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    Now Fox is reporting that the suspect was shot, not dead. Like fraudqueen I hope we soon find out what really happened.
     
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    RIP Trooper Dermyer. Prayers for his family at this difficult time.
     
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    The gunman's identity was being withheld until his family could be notified. But CBS Richmond affiliate WTVR reports an official source told it the killer was 34-year-old James Brown III of Aurora, Illinois.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trooper-killer-at-virginia-greyhound-station-hated-cops-report/


    Greyhound shooting suspect was from a Chicago suburb with a long record, anger at police

    Quoted from his aunt: "He had a lot of anger about the police in the past," she said. "He pretty much thought he wanted to be infamous . . . in terms of having a showdown. He always praised those people who got into shootouts with police."

    http://wtvr.com/2016/04/01/trooper-...uburb-with-a-long-record-and-anger-at-police/
     
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    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    WTVR CBS 6 reporter Mark Holmberg first reported the name of 34-year-old James Brown III of Aurora, Ill., Thursday night.

    http://wtvr.com/2016/04/01/trooper-...uburb-with-a-long-record-and-anger-at-police/

    Court records show James Brown III had been charged with murder, intent to kill, aggravated battery with a firearm, failure to obey police, resisting a corrections officer, aggravated battery of a pregnant woman, aggravated battery of an unborn child, numerous drug charges, intimidation, domestic battery, felony possession of a weapon, among many driving charges.
     
  12. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    This case illustrates perfectly why cops are so 'trigger happy'---as others often accuse them of being. They know that in an instant, someone can, and might, pull out a gun and kill them. People do not understand that. Few people can understand the incredible stress that creates in their day to day routines. So when someone puts their hands in their waistband or turns suddenly or acts erratically, a cop is going to assume the worst. They have to assume the worst or they will end up dead.
     
  13. Woodland

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    BBM

    Do you have verified credentials to back-up knowledge on what other people think?

    If not, maybe linking a study on what people think about this case or situation would suffice.

    In the meantime, condolences to this officers family - if the facts are correct, the shooters family should have done something to help prevent this tragedy. They seemed to know it was coming.
     
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    ^bbm sbm. Not presuming to speak for anyone else here, just my thoughts.

    Mr. Brown's aunt, w whom he recently lived, commented to wtvr.*
    "She was upset about what happened, but not surprised."
    "She said her nephew vowed his prison days were over."
    "He said he would never go back to prison again," she said. "He would fight it out with them."
    bbm

    Personally I don't always accept a person's stmts about her dead or still-living relative (usu accolades and glowing praises) as the absolute, ultimate truth, but here his aunt seems to have been candid in revealing characteristics that law abiding ppl would find, uh, well, hmm ... unflattering. Or maybe she has no warm feelings for him and is exaggerating or not being truthful. IDK.

    Assuming her stmt is truthful, seems, it is a better predictor of this particular man's predisposition to be violent toward LEOs than a study would be, imo.


    Should LEOs azz-ume everyone they approach is a bomb w fuse burning, ready to violently attack LEOs?
    IDTS, but I understand, before or during encounters, why LEOs may approach as though a person may be a bomb w fuse burning.
    All JM2cts.

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    * http://wtvr.com/2016/04/01/trooper-...uburb-with-a-long-record-and-anger-at-police/ (Ap 1)
    "He had a lot of anger about the police in the past," she said. "He pretty much thought he wanted to be infamous . . . in terms of having a showdown. He always praised those people who got into shootouts with police." bbmCourt records show James Brown III had been charged with murder, intent to kill, aggravated battery with a firearm, failure to obey police, resisting a corrections officer, aggravated battery of a pregnant woman, aggravated battery of an unborn child, numerous drug charges, intimidation, domestic battery, felony possession of a weapon, among many charges."
     
  15. LaborDayRN

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    RIP Trooper Dermyer. May justice be swift!
     
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    State and national law enforcement advocates said they are increasingly concerned with an anti-police climate arising from a series of high-profile, racially-charged incidents that they say is getting police officers killed.

    “Officers feel like they are targeted and they are being singled out for murder,” Bill Johnson, executive director of the National Association of Police Organizations, told FoxNews.com. “There is a climate out there that increasingly says it is open season on police.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/01/va-troopers-death-came-in-training-exercise-gone-awry.html

    Lots more at link.
     
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  18. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    Trooper Dermyer is the one who pulled over Tonya Slaton last year for a light being out iirc. He felt something was off and then found the remains of her son in garbage bags in the trunk. The son had been missing for like 10 yrs.

    Semper Fi Brother, RIH Trooper and prayers to your family, loved ones and your family in blue.


    http://ksn.com/2016/04/01/ex-girlfriend-says-bus-station-gunman-hated-police-officers/

    Friends and family fondly recalled Dermyer as a devoted family man and consummate professional. More than a 100 supporters gathered Friday evening at the Siegel Center at Virginia Commonwealth University to honor Dermyer with a prayer vigil.
     
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    popsicle --thx for link, with a quote from a self-identified (but anonymous) exGF of Mr Brown.
    http://ksn.com/2016/04/01/ex-girlfriend-says-bus-station-gunman-hated-police-officers/ Ap. 1.

    "... once nearly choked her to death after she broke up with him.....
    “He wanted to be one of those guys that just died killing police officers because they are not taking him back to jail,” she said." bbm
    If she was accurately conveying his thoughts or feelings, this is scary, for LEOs and the gen public.
    And there are more ppl 'out there' who think like ^. JM2cts.

    RIP Trooper Dermyer.

    ____________________________________________________________________________
    "She spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because she said she fears for her safety."
    Not sure how much credence to give to an anonymous source.
     
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    Community pays tribute to fallen VSP Trooper Chad Dermyer at vigil
    “It’s important for us to remember Chad's family,” a member of the Illinois State Police said.

    Also in the audience were members of the larger Richmond community including a pastor from Petersburg.

    “My heart is broken over what happened yesterday, the face of evil at work,” the pastor said.

    http://wtvr.com/2016/04/01/community-pays-tribute-to-fallen-vsp-trooper-chad-dermyer-at-vigil/
     
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    ITA. And these FBI statistics will help explain why cops expect the worst: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/leoka/2013/officers-assaulted/assaults_topic_page_-2013
     

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