Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by fran, May 7, 2013.
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Saving us a seat basilcat. :seeya::seeya::seeya:
While I'm at it, just copying over JSS's docket for this morning and the cases she has before 10:00.
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Travis Victor Alexander
July 28, 1977 - June 4, 2008
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Travis' blog: http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/
Travis' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander
Defendants' blog: http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/
Defendants' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias
Defendants' other myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jfineart
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Jodi Ann Arias DOB 7/1980
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V interesting ..
Really though. Her twitter posts were made just an hour ago. Does she have contact with this Donovan person every day that is supposedly tweeting for her?
She can call her from jail .. collect.
The best thing the world and especially the media could do would be to ignore JA. It'd be like a living death sentence for her. She'd hate it. I moderate a forum where for a while we had a true narcissist as a member. Some of her comments were deliberately inflammatory and a certain group would bite every time she spoke. The talk about this woman even on threads she wasn't involved in kept her existence going far longer and greater than it ever needed to be. I really believe if people and media stopped reacting to JA, she'd eventually stop, not probably before one big last attempt at self-destruction.
This Donald Trump connection is giving me a weird vibe.
THE CHARGED OFFENSE PREMEDITATED MURDER
Count 1 charges the defendant with First Degree Murder. Arizona law recognizes two types of First Degree Murder Premeditated Murder and Felony Murder. The state has charged the defendant with both types.
The crime of First Degree Premeditated Murder requires the state to prove the following:
1. The defendant caused the death of another person; and
2. The defendant intended or knew that she would cause the death of another person; and
3. The defendant acted with premeditation.
Premeditation means that the defendant intended to kill another human being or knew she would kill another human being; and that after forming that intent or knowledge, reflected on the decision before killing. It is this reflection, regardless of the length of time in which it occurs, that distinguishes First Degree Murder from Second Degree Murder. While reflection is required for First Degree Murder, the time needed for reflection is not necessarily prolonged, and the space of time between the intent or knowledge to kill and the act of killing may be very short. An act is not done with premeditation if it is the instant effect of a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.
The crime of First Degree Premeditated Murder includes the lesser offense of Second Degree Murder. You may consider a lesser offense if either:
1. You find the defendant not guilty of First Degree Premeditated Murder; or
2. After full and careful consideration of the facts, you cannot agree on whether to find the defendant guilty or not guilty of First Degree Premeditated Murder.
You cannot find the defendant guilty of any offense unless you find that the State has proved each element of that offense beyond a reasonable doubt.
SECOND DEGREE MURDER
The crime of Second Degree Murder requires proof of one of the following:
1. The defendant intentionally caused the death of another person; or
2. The defendant caused the death of another person by conduct which the defendant knew would cause death or serious physical injury; or
3. Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life, the defendant recklessly engaged in conduct that created a grave risk of death and thereby caused the death of another person. The risk must be such that disregarding it was a gross deviation from what a reasonable person in the defendant's situation would have done.
The difference between first degree murder and second degree murder is that second degree murder does not require premeditation by the defendant.
If you determine that the defendant is guilty of either first degree murder or second degree murder and you have a reasonable doubt as to which it was, you must find the defendant guilty of second degree murder.
MANSLAUGHTER BASED ON EXISTENCE OF
SUDDEN QUARREL OR HEAT OF PASSION:
If, and only if, you find the elements of Second Degree Murder were proven beyond a reasonable doubt, you must then consider whether the homicide was committed upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim.
"Adequate provocation" means conduct or circumstances sufficient to deprive a reasonable person of self-control. Words alone are not adequate provocation to justify reducing an intentional killing to Manslaughter. There must not have been a "cooling off" period between the provocation and the killing. A "cooling off" period is the time it would take a reasonable person to regain self-control under the circumstances.
If, after finding the elements of Second Degree Murder were proven beyond a reasonable doubt, you also unanimously find beyond a reasonable doubt that the homicide was not committed upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim, then you must find the defendant guilty of Second Degree Murder.
If, after finding the elements of Second Degree Murder were proven beyond a reasonable doubt, you also unanimously find beyond a reasonable doubt that the homicide was committed upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim, then you must find the defendant not guilty of Second Degree Murder but guilty of Manslaughter.
If you determine that the defendant is guilty of either Second Degree Murder or Manslaughter but you have a reasonable doubt as to which it was, you must find the defendant guilty of Manslaughter.
The defendant cannot be guilty of both Second Degree Murder and Manslaughter.
CHARGED OFFENSE FELONY MURDER
As stated earlier, Count 1 also charges defendant with First Degree Felony Murder. The crime of First Degree Felony Murder requires the state to prove the following two things:
1. The defendant committed or attempted to commit Burglary in the Second Degree; and
2. In the course of and in furtherance of committing Burglary in the Second Degree, or immediate flight from it, the defendant caused the death of any person.
An attempt requires the state to prove that the defendant intentionally did something which, under the circumstances she believed them to be, was a step in a course of conduct planned to culminate in the commission of the offense.
The crime of Burglary in the Second Degree requires proof that the defendant:
1. Entered or remained unlawfully in or on a residential structure; and
2. Did so with the intent to commit any theft or felony therein.
Residential structure means any structure, movable or immovable, permanent or temporary, that is adapted for both human residence and lodging whether occupied or not.
Intentionally or with the intent to means, with respect to a result or to conduct described by a statute defining an offense, that a persons objective is to cause that result or to engage in that conduct.
There are no lesser included offenses for First Degree Felony Murder.
In order to find defendant guilty of Count 1, it is not necessary that you be unanimous with respect to whether the Defendant is guilty of First Degree Premeditated Murder or First Degree Felony Murder. The only requirement is that you be unanimous that the Defendant is guilty of First Degree Murder, which can be either First Degree Premeditated Murder or First Degree Felony Murder. If you find the Defendant guilty of First Degree Murder, you must indicate on the verdict form how many of you have found the Defendant guilty of First Degree Premeditated Murder and/or First Degree Felony Murder. By way of example only, the jury can be unanimous as to both theories, or just one theory, or it may be divided.
Final Jury Instructions (22 pages):
Justice for Travis! That's the only reason we're here! Prayers for the jury and Travis' family. Hope to have a verdict tomorrow....
Got my pajama pants and a shirt on so I'm ready for the night. Cofffee is set up to go in the AM, If the chairs, recline we're good to go!
aw geez, a new thread in the middle of the night.
Jodi is going down.
BTW, how do I explain to someone that BPD (borderline personality disorder) is NOT insanity. At work a co-worker said "oh she will just get insanity". Well, we know that is not an option, so how do I explain that BPD is not insane?
Yes, sadly their phone privileges are pretty liberal at the jail.
I agree 100%.She wants attention and will do anything to get it. I consider her to be a deranged, evil creature and I pay no attention to what she tweets and eats...
Does anyone have any feelings as to what her reaction will be if it's M1 and DP? Stoic? Sobbing? Outburst?
Back to that call from "Diana" on Dr. Drew. She said that JA wanted to be the LAST woman that had sex with Travis before he died. I agree with that. She also wanted to sleep with him and cling on ONE MORE TIME and feel him close before she slaughtered him. That was the only way she would "Let Him Go". I think the jurors understand this. JMO
I say stoic. What do you think?
If it's Murder Juan she'll have to keep acting because the same Jury decides life or death, actually either way she'll come over all 'falsely accused' IMO.
BPD is a personality disorder and is an AXIS II disorder. Only AXIS I disorders (ex. schizophrenia, multiple personality/dissociative disorder) take the death penalty off the table.
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