Vermont Mayor planning "sanctuary city" for illegal immigrants

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  1. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    I just got home from work and wanted to post this article.
    Every night the inmates watch the news.I heard them yelling in the dayroom and this story is that upset them;
    Burlington has many homeless and welfare recipients that need to be helped to be productive citizens.The elderly need to be taken care of.The "meals on wheels" program is in dire need of help.It was also on the news that with the gas prices the way they are,if a driver cannot show up,the elderly do not eat.Burlington needs to think of its own sisters and brothers from the fetus to the elderly.



    Words from the new Mayor.........
    Burlington, Vermont - May 2, 2006

    Mayor Bob Kiss wants to see Burlington become a "sanctuary city" to provide a safe place for undocumented immigrants to work and live without fear of deportation.

    Demonstrators welcomed the announcement from Burlington's new mayor.

    "I hope we can move forward to become a sanctuary city in the United States of America," said Mayor Kiss, a progressive from Burlington.

    With an immigration reform protest as his backdrop, Mayor Kiss told supporters he planned to make the Queen City a so-called "sanctuary city," too.




    It means a policy could be adopted calling for city employees, including police officers, not to report illegal aliens to the federal authorities.

    "If we can help them build a better life I think we should do that," said Mayor Kiss. "It really is at the beginning. But it's timely and issues being discussed across the country encourage us to look at this carefully as well."

    more here
    read here about the Vt. rally and read article #38 about the legal immigrant pay and benifits
     
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  3. Yakwoman

    Yakwoman 25 cents a look!

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    Let's see how he feels when his "sanctuary" becomes a burden on taxpayers. Illegal immigrants need services - like medical care, education, housing, etc. Who does he think is going to pay for that? One just needs to look at Florida to see a state that is over-burdened by illegals.
     
  4. christine2448

    christine2448 Retired WS Staff

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    I'm glad I don't live in Vermont and I am glad this guy isn't my Mayor :bang:
     
  5. ljwf22

    ljwf22 Reality continues to ruin my life.

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    I think I would kiss Mayor Kiss good-bye! :razz:
     
  6. Masissy

    Masissy Former Member

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    Must be close for re-election. Can't get legal voters, so I am sure he is looking for the sanc city to vote.....
     
  7. bakerprune64

    bakerprune64 Former Member

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    I wasn't aware that Illegals could vote.
     
  8. Opie

    Opie Active Member

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    If that mayor thinks he has seen protests, wonder what would happen if he managed to pull this off. The legal citizens of the town should protest even the idea of such. As for the university and the benefits they provide, what about legals who wish they could have free tuition, etc? Something very wrong with this picture.
     
  9. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    Here is a link to our newspaper.If you scroll down the page you will see a poll about this.

    When a person votes on the poll a window shows up with the results.

    Most of the votes were "no" to making Burlington a sancuary city.
     
  10. reb

    reb New Member

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    OK,, let's see (if this were to be voted in) how long before all the local skilled tradespeople are out of work, from illegals taking everyone's jobs working for $5 an hour- no lisencing, no liability, no documentation, no proper training, no resume's, no BBB membership, no background checks, no quality control, no nothing. 'cause that's what's happening everywhere else. what a dimwit!!!
     
  11. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    Hi Reb,
    Good post.Oh yeah,I forgot to add that he has been Mayor for a little over 5 weeks
     
  12. HeartofTexas

    HeartofTexas New Member

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    Personally, living in Texas, where there are millions of illegal immigrants, I hope they do move a huge chunk of them to Vermont. Then Vermont can see what happens to their school systems, their county hospital budgets, their food stamp budgets, their gangs, etc. There is more than one side to the story of illegal immigrants than just the work they perform for less than stellar wages. There is the small matter of what they do to already over-burdened government payouts in the form of food stamps, free lunches for the children, medical benefits, Medicaid, insurance, etc. And I do believe Vermont would need to annex territory from adjoining states to house them all, but more power to them. But other than that, I think it's a great idea (sarcasm).

    I do realize there are some Hispanic families that are paying their own way, but the majority of the ones I see are taking far more benefits than they are giving. At my local school, 97% are receiving free lunches. Few of the parents have automobile insurance, so if you're involved in an accident with one of them, you're SOL. And the problem with Hispanic gangs is more than a little troubling. A visit to our County Hospital on any day of the week would peel your eyes backwards.
     
  13. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    HeartofTexas,:)
    Vermont has illegal immigrants and they are not just Hispanic.We have all nationalities.
    There are illegals here that are burdening the schools,hospitals,welfare systyem and so on.They engage in identity theft to get welfare,send their children to school,get licences,ruined credit ratings and so on.
    We have gangs here and have had them here.Why would anyone think that we do not have them.Our prisons house many gang members from out of state,out of the country,and illegal aliens.There are many here who have not been caught and are residing here or commuting here daily from nearby states.
    Operation Community Shield is part of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.A division of Homeland Security.The base is Williston,Vermont At the begining of 2005 670,000 electronic queries were processed.27,500 were made from the tipline.Vermont played a major role in the arrest of violent gang members nationwide.State,Federal and local Law Enforcement use the system.I have to report members from our facility and it is recorded.One of the main groups on the watch here is MS-13 (Mara salratrucha) a Salvadoran based gang.Hispanics are not the only ones who form gangs and they are not the only illegal immigrants in the U.S.
    You don't think that would be terrorists come to Vermont.
    Here is a woman who was in my unit that was linked to Osama bin Laden.
    This was years before the sept.11 attack.
    Ironically her birthday was sept.11.

    Thank-you for the post HeartofTexas.The mayor of Burlington is not a popular person right now.
    I am deeply sorry for what you have to endure in your state.
    Much Respect,
    dark_shadows
     
  14. HeartofTexas

    HeartofTexas New Member

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    DS, I guess I'm a bit uninformed! How do other illegal immigrants gain entry to the U.S. if it's not by jumping borders? I would think the screening process would keep them out at other entry points. But then, I am assuming after reading your post that I'm wrong on that. I truly didn't realize I was so uninformed.

    I'm also sorry to hear that you're having the same problem in Vermont that we're having here in Texas. I've visited your state before and it's probably one of the most beautiful areas of the country that I've ever seen. Perhaps the problem is going on, on a lesser scale, in all parts of the country. I just assumed that the worst problems were in California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas, where we share borders with Mexico.

    I'm sure that big ol' fence the President plans on building will keep out about 10 immigrants a year. That should definitely be worth the cost in construction costs and in border patrol. LOL!
     
  15. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    Hello there HeartofTexas,:)

    I want to thank-you very much for the post.It is appreciated.
    Vermont is a beautiful state.I am glad that you had the chance to visit.
    Again HeartofTexas,I would like to say again that I am sorry that you have to endure the problems that the illegals bring to your state.Something should have been done alot sooner.I was wondering if the health department noted any spike in diseases brought by the illegals.
    We have a warning about an outbreak of whooping cough.
    This was reported in june of 2005
    From the link;
    INVASION USA
    [font=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][size=+2]Whooping cough outbreak linked to illegals[/size][/font]
    [font=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][size=+1]Doctors warn of worst spread of pertussis in 40 years[/size][/font]
    This is a link from Texas


    Respectfully,
    dark_shadows
     
  16. HeartofTexas

    HeartofTexas New Member

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    I got hooping cough in early 2005 and let me tell you, it's nothing to mess around with. It took MONTHS to get over, and I've never been totally the same since. My little boy brought it home from school.
     
  17. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    Well after Bush's speech last night, I'm thinking that Mayor Kiss better kiss this idea goodbye. :)
     
  18. magpie

    magpie Derek's Grandma

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    Thanks for the link in your quote above, dark_shadows. It looks like we Texans aren't just getting whooping cough from Mexico. See the following link I found on the LibertyPost.org site provided by dark_shadows. This is a news video concerning terrorists entering Texas from Mexico recently:

    Click here to see news video:

    http://www.krgv.com/Video/News/7508
    Published: May 17, 2006
    Author: Mike Cutler,
    Post Date: 2006-05-17 12:12:00 by AuntB
    Ping List: *Immigration Issues-Borders*
    15 Comments

    Here is the link to the thread I found this news video in:
    http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=141817
     
  19. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    Hello Magpie,

    Thanks for the post and the link.
    Here is something that was yesterday in the ICE page.


    news release

    may 16,2005



    ICE Arrests Five Unauthorized Workers At L.A. Department Of Water And Power
    Eight unauthorized employees identified during year-long review of utility's personnel records



    [​IMG] LOS ANGELES – U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents arrested five unauthorized workers employed by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP) today, capping a year-long joint review of the utility’s hiring records by ICE and LADWP that resulted in the arrest of eight unauthorized workers overall.

    Today’s arrests took place at the utility’s headquarters downtown in coordination with the LADWP’s human resources department. The illegal workers identified during ICE’s investigation held both professional and blue collar positions, ranging from a management analyst and customer service representative to a water sampling technician and a maintenance worker. One of the unauthorized employees was an electrical engineering associate.

    The unauthorized workers identified during the review of the LADWP’s nearly 7,000 employee records included foreign nationals from four countries - Ethiopia, Nigeria, El Salvador, and Mexico. All of the unauthorized workers were processed for administrative immigration violations and will be placed in deportation proceedings. ICE may seek to criminally prosecute one of the workers for making a false claim to United States citizenship.







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    Someone correct me if I am wrong,don't terrorists want to get water supplies?
    The article states that those people had no terrorist ties..............
     
  20. deanws

    deanws Former Member

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    I hope my husband doesn't do anything stupid that will make the papers like this!
    :crazy: What was this guy thinking? I agree with you dark...we need to be looking out for our senior citizens. They always seem to get lost in the shuffle! :(
     
  21. Jean

    Jean Former Member

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    I bet your husband is way too smart to ever get himself into a situation like this mayor did!! :p
     

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