Victim: Alexis Murphy, 17, missing from Shipman, VA, 03 August 2013 - #4

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  1. SilkySifaka

    SilkySifaka Active Member

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    one assault and battery in 87 which could easily be a punch up. otherwise they are loser charges, burglary and misdemeanors. No rapes, no history of sex offenses or things you would expect in a 20=30 year history with LE for crimes like these. Yes I know, there is always a first time especially with a serial killer but 20 to 30 years there should be one who escaped or one who was sexually assaulted but not killed, especially in the beginning years. Something of that sort, be it a peeping tom finding girls underwear in his home.

    I am just trying to be objective here and I can't hang my hat on anything so far except a belief that LE normally gets the right man....but they normally are willing to go to court when they arrest them too so even that doesn't reassure me much
     


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    Important things first, for those who may not have seen this article:

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/2150555-12/defense-missing-teen-alexis-murphy-was-in-camper.html

     
  3. SilkySifaka

    SilkySifaka Active Member

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    Sure but when was the last case where the prosecution said they couldn't be ready in 30 days and asked for 5 months before the next court date. Not even trial but court date?There is a reason that all citizens are entitled to a speedy trial. It is so that LE can't just arrest and warehouse while they take their time to build a case.

    THey have every right to add a murder charge at any time, that doesn't mean you arrest someone just hoping you can make a murder charge at some time in the future. It goes against the constitution
     
  4. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    For context: For those who have never poked into the Tim Bosma threads--there is basically a mountain of evidence pointing at the guy who is currently in jail awaiting trial, including the murdered man's remains on his property and the murdered man's truck sitting in the accused guy's mother's driveway, but there is a still a weirdly large group of posters defending the accused every day. (I'm not one of them.) After several months of that situation, that's part of why I'm going--wait, all they have is a hair?

    I'm hoping they have more than that, that's all.

    When does LE have to show all their cards, procedure-wise?
     
  5. forestchilde

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    If she wasn't planning on being home until 12 she definitely had plans to do something other than shopping, since most shops close by 9. Could have been a movie, could have been just hanging out.

    I don't think there is any confirmation.


    Yes, cell signals can be sketchy out in rural areas around here because of the mountain/valley terrain. But what is curious is if the last ping was near where RAT lived why were there no more when she left? If she left.

    Ditto.



    I recall seeing a picture of her blowing smoke in her twitter media, so I'm inclined to believe she smoked something. How often or what we don't know. And it could have just been for show.


    I'm not sure he was stalking her via SM. Though he may have known about her twitter via his son - but even that seems like a stretch because we don't know if his son knew her or followed her on twitter and if he did we don't know that he'd just randomly talk to ol dad about it. I can't help but wonder myself if he learned about her twitter feed like most of us did, AFTER she was missing. That would fill him in on some of her habits etc. BTW...the comment about her leggings at the gas station was on her ******* account. That is anonymous.
     
  6. SilkySifaka

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    I think Hallahan said not til spring but with a bond hearing some will come out then. Essentially they get a free pass for 5 months.
     
  7. Orione

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    What if they have asked for such a long time till trial to see if they also tie the other old cases to him?

    Also, his story about what happened is certainly detailed, as detailed as in the other case. And I think there is probably some truth in it. The other guy may well have been to his house. On another day for example.
    But what strikes me is that he seems to not be commenting on the state that he believes Alexis to be in. Alive? Abducted by the other guy? Eloped? If he spent such a long time with her the day that she disappeared, he must have some inkling about her mood, her relationship to the guy, her current safety etc.
    IMO, he is only trying to make sure that the evidence that he believes LE has doesn't stick to him. He doesn't seem worried about the well being of a person that has gone missing in his community...

    Lastly, I think that LE is perhaps not actively searching for the other guy, because they want to know if the defense is going to be proactive about that. Do they actually want the other guy involved and telling a whole other story (perhaps) or opening up other cans of worms? Or are they sure of their truth?

    As convinced as I am that it is a bs story, part of me is hoping this 'other guy' theory is true though. There may be a better chance of her having gone with him willingly and of her being found alive.
     
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    I upgraded my smartphone last year but because of where I live my internet connection sucks with the new phone, BUT, my old phone's connection still works great, so it's not uncommon for me to use my old cut off phone for web activity while at home. He wouldn't necessarily need a computer or active phone to sit in the lot & get WI-fi.
     
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    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    I feel like, if he were actively trying to pin it on the other guy, he wouldn't have gone out of his way to say that Alexis and Caprice Classic Guy left separately. I mean, it does plant some doubt, but he says she left under her own power in her own car.
     
  11. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    This has always bothered me:

    Originally Posted by popsicle View Post
    On her Ask page, 10 days ago someone says they are coming to see her this weekend for the first time and she responds, and who is this?

    The next entry is, you are seriously one of the most prettiest girls I have ever seen on twitter and she responds thank you.
     
  12. SilkySifaka

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    But that is the thing, generally you cant just pop someone in jail and then say well we will take away his right to a speedy trial because we hope we can tie him to other things and if we can't so sad to bad. It may be technically legal but imo they have opened the door to a supreme court case that could overturn any conviction they get. It is one heck of a risk when you think about it. If they had something solid they would do what every other le does, have a court date for motions and pretrial hearings etc. in 30 days.

    For LE to not be actively searching for possible lead to her (it could be accomplice it could be the per it could be neither) is simply astounding.

    I was a lot more sure of his guilt berfore LE decided to bend the normal rules, not follow leads etc.
     
  13. 21merc7

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    This is exactly how I feel about it. I'm certain his attorney does too.

    It does make it appear that RAT is being railroaded. The Judge should not have agreed to a January hearing, but there it is. Clause or no clause, it is a violation of every U.S. Citizen's rights. If it were a straight up murder charge, then not so much, as a bond hearing would still be held before January, only denied bond. RAT is not held on a murder charge.

    I think RAT is in this up to his eyeballs, but I do like to see our Judicial System used properly, for all of us.
     
  14. popsicle

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    He only needs reasonable doubt and he knows that.
     
  15. SilkySifaka

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    Yes he doesn't seem to be SODDIing it specifically with this guy, just explaining why she was there and who was there with him.

    Doesn't clear him by any means but does give a plausible reason if the other guy corroborates.
     
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    I wouldn't say the spent a long time together according to his story. They met at the gas station at 7:15 ish, drove to his place up the road about a mile and the two left before the sun set, which would have been around 8:15ish. So no more than 40 minutes by his account.

    I agree that he doesn't seem concerned about her well being, just his own.

    If M who is commenting over at NBC29 has any thing to do about it they will find this guy working the night shift at Wal-mart. She has apparently called the defense attorney. Whether her story is true or she's just jerking people around on media websites we don't know. But it sure sounds like she believes RAT is telling the truth. Wonder if she knows him? IMO I think there very well could be some guy with cornrows driving a maroon caprice with 22 inch rims, but I'm not so sure he was involved. It seems so easy for people who commit crimes to point fingers to "the black guy" - i.e. Susan Smith (and there have been a few others). I'm not so sure RAT acted alone if he is the one that is responsible but I'm also not sure Mr. Cornrow is his accomplice.
     
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    Good point. I don't think he is actively trying to accuse him, I think he is trying to deflect from himself.
     
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    I find it odd that people are questioning why it would take five months for another court appearance. They haven't even completed their investigation yet. That could take a month or more. And there could be more charges added. The prosecutor has to review all evidence before he/she can do much of anything. They are still collective evidence right now. Also, I'm sure Nelson County's prosecutors haven't tried a lot of abduction cases, and this case may include other charges soon. It's not Orlando, Florida. They don't have several individuals in the state attorney's office. So it will take them some time to build their case. Plus, there likely is forensic analysis that must take place, and it takes time to conduct all of the necessary testing.

    This jack ass is going nowhere. If his lawyer truly thought the state didn't have enough evidence, he wouldn't have waived his right to a speedy trial. They'd likely want him to face the charges ASAP. But they know they have a lot of legwork to do in defending him. They also need time to build their defense case.
     
  20. SilkySifaka

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    It makes me angry because i was sure of his guilt before this stunt lol. Now I am looking at everything LE says and does with a jaundiced eye. And the more I look at it the more annoyed I am at them for planting reasonable doubt in my mind. AND for taking away his rights, pisses me off that i am feeling any empathy for the creep.
     
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