Possible Victim: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, missing July 2007, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *POI Rex Heuermann*

[Sleuth_Noob]

I have no doubt that he's aware of LE procedures. But then again, so are most of us.

This man was cautious and obviously put a lot of thought into how to go undetected. The time in between kills and the lack of evidence show us that.

I think the initial comments about him possibly being LE were a leap in logic. It doesn't take a genius to realize that making a phone call in Manhattan is going to make it difficult for the police to trace it. So far, I've seen nothing that makes me think, "Yea, this guy was definitely LE."

I agree w. you LE connection is merely a possibility.

 

[wcasewatch]

I agree w. you LE connection is merely a possibility.

Btw, I'm not ruling it out. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me. But I've yet to see anything that is convincing. Unfortunately for us, this guy was no fool.

 

[Sleuth_Noob]

Btw, I'm not ruling it out. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me. But I've yet to see anything that is convincing. Unfortunately for us, this guy was no fool.

When he is eventually caught all of our questions will be answered and the victims’ families will have closure.

 

[Ana renee]

Look at us.... Look at the very things we read, study and take in. The things we decide are normal and abnormal. We make assessments and then we decide what is the way a psychopath would think....Let alone a sociopath....I want to understand. But if we do.....

 

[Catchinglisk]

I guess I’m just really confused how a police officer who was identified as being one of the last known people to respond to MBB Craigslist ad before she went missing was NOT considered a suspect? Umm… hello?

The police were named in the bittrolf trial.

 

[Sleuth_Noob]

The police were named in the bittrolf trial.

Why would they have been named in the Bittrolf trial in relation to MBB disappearance? Bittrolf’s wasn’t on trial for MBB disappearance.

I don’t understand …??

 

[Catchinglisk]

Why would they have been named in the Bittrolf trial in relation to MBB disappearance? Bittrolf’s wasn’t on trial for MBB disappearance.

I don’t understand …??

Cause they’re saying they were named suspects early on and the cop set bittrolf up that was the argument in trial

 

[Catchinglisk]

Cause they’re saying they were named suspects early on and the cop set bittrolf up that was the argument in trial

They were trying to link the cop to all the killings

 

[Sleuth_Noob]

Can you provide a link to any trial transcript etc., related to what you are suggesting? Thanks.

 

[sds71]

The unidentified man is being eyed in the four deaths of women, wrapped in burlap and discovered within days of each other from late 2010, the group referred to as the "Gilgo Four."

The investigation continues into the deaths of another six victims, later found along Ocean Parkway.

Gilgo Beach murders: Large police operation in Massapequa Park, person in custody

A large police operation in Massapequa Park began in the early morning hours Friday in connection with the ongoing Gilgo Beach investigation.

abc7ny.com

 

[JerseyGirl]

How the Gilgo Beach serial killer turned the Long Island shore into a graveyard

More than a decade after 11 bodies were found dumped in Long Beach, married father-of-two and Manhattan-based architect Rex Heuermann is under arrest. Does this mean the hunt for the Gilgo Beach serial killer is finally over? Rachel Sharp reports

www.independent.co.uk

Mr Heuermann is also the prime suspect in the murder of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who is believed to be one of the “Gilgo Four.” Prosecutors noted in the application that records for the burner phones used to contact Brainard-Barnes were not obtained at the time she went missing and no longer exist.

 

[Ruminations]

And the late Harry Feingold had apartments and his POB right in the same area. HE MOVED there after he was convicted of drug dealing in Suffolk and spent 10 years in prison. He then went into the pornogrqphy business and Russian Bride business. In 2000 he buys a house on Savannah Walk, Oak Beach and sells it to Bellone's BFF, Bob Stricoff. That house was sold for 825 K or for twice the house was worth at the time. At the time Stricoff was the IDA CHAIRMAN for the Town of Babylon. One would think he should have known better to buy a house for twice the amount for what it was worth.c

Wow. That suggests more than the house was being purchased.

Apologies for narc posting.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Although he is not charged in the death of another victim who was found on the beach, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who went missing in 2007, Heuermann was named the "prime suspect" in her death, prosecutors said.

How investigators say they connected the dots that led to Gilgo Beach murder arrest

For the last year and a half, Long Island investigators said they honed in on the man who they say is a prime suspect in some of the 2010 cold case murders.

abcnews.go.com

He is also the prime suspect in the 2007 disappearance and death of a fourth woman, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, according to a bail application from prosecutors. Heuermann has not been charged with that homicide but the investigation “is expected to be resolved soon,” the document says.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/14/us/gilgo-beach-murders-suspect-arrest/index.html

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Brainard-Barnes, of Prospect Street in Norwich, Conn., was 25 years old when she went missing in 2007, according to the Suffolk County Police Department.

Police said that she was a sex worker advertising on Craigslist, Backpage and other sites and was working out of hotels and motels in Manhattan. Authorities believe that on July 6, 2007, Brainard-Barnes took an Amtrak train from New London to Grand Central Terminal.

At the time of her disappearance, she had been with a female friend who returned home early, according to police, and her last known communication was at 11:43 p.m. on July 9, 2007 when she called a Connecticut friend.

"Although she was known to work out of motel rooms, on the night of July 9, 2007, she told her friend she would be going to meet someone outside of the motel on an 'out-call,'" according to the Suffolk County Police Department.

A friend reported her as missing to the Norwich Police Department and the New York Police Department later took over the case, police said.

Who was Maureen Brainard-Barnes? CT resident was among 'Gilgo Four' serial killing victims

Maureen Brainard-Barnes, of Norwich, Conn., went missing in 2007 and is believed to be...

www.ctinsider.com

On occasion, Brainard-Barnes would travel with another female who worked out of a different room at the same location. They both may have used a male friend, who they would refer to as their cousin, to accompany them and offer a level of safety and protection. Brainard-Barnes traveled with her female friend the weekend she went missing, however her friend returned home early and Brainard-Barnes stayed behind. Brainard-Barnes was last heard from on July 9, 2007 at 11:43 p.m. when she called a friend in Connecticut. Although she was known to work out of motel rooms, on the night of July 9, 2007, she told her friend she would be going to meet someone outside of the motel on an “out-call.”

Brainard-Barnes was reported missing by a friend to the Norwich Police Department on July 14, 2007. The NYPD assisted the Norwich Police Department in the missing person investigation, eventually taking it over. Brainard-Barnes was found on December 13, 2010 on the north side of Ocean Parkway, near Gilgo Beach, during the search for Shannan Gilbert, who had gone missing from Oak Beach.

She is believed to be the first victim in what is known as the “Gilgo Four”.

https://www.gilgonews.com/Vics/maureenbrainardbarnes

 

[imstilla.grandma]

A former blackjack dealer at Foxwoods Resort Casino, Barnes was facing eviction from her apartment at the time of her disappearance and worked as an escort who advertised for clients on Craigslist, police said. That is how she met Heuermann.

Back in Norwich, friends and family members waited 16 long years between Barnes’ July 2007 disappearance and the arrest as the case took multiple twists and turns that were detailed in a Lifetime movie and in a best-selling book called “Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery.”

Longtime Norwich mayor Peter Nystrom, who represented the city for 18 years in the state legislature before serving for 10 years as mayor, says the community was shaken.

“This was the case that bothered local people here quite a bit, but it is an opportunity to bring closure for the family,” Nystrom said in an interview. “That is a good thing. However, it’s a constant reminder of the horror and sadness of what took place.”

As a state legislator in the 1980s and 1990s, Nystrom worked closely with the families of the victims in the serial killings by Cornell University graduate Michael Ross, a Connecticut native who confessed to eight murders and was executed by lethal injection in 2005. The Gilgo cases were equally difficult on the families, but the long-running mystery has entered a new phase with the arrest.

“You want people to be held accountable, and certainly with something like this, to live all those years without any understanding of what happened or who is responsible — that has to gnaw at you,” Nystrom said.

The story of Barnes dates back to her younger days when she was a straight A student. But she got pregnant at age 16, gave birth at 17, and dropped out of Fitch High School in Groton. She had another baby seven years later and was working as a sex worker when she was last seen leaving a Super 8 motel in midtown Manhattan. Barnes was the first of the known victims to disappear.

Long Island serial killer prime suspect in Norwich woman’s murder; 2007 disappearance unsolved for 16 years

For more than a decade, investigators remained baffled as 11 bodies were discovered near Long Island beaches as they tried to find a notorious serial killer. But a new task force started re-examining the mystery less than two years ago, re-interviewed witnesses, studied phone records, and...

www.yahoo.com

 

[digitective]

A former blackjack dealer at Foxwoods Resort Casino, Barnes was facing eviction from her apartment at the time of her disappearance and worked as an escort who advertised for clients on Craigslist, police said. That is how she met Heuermann.

Back in Norwich, friends and family members waited 16 long years between Barnes’ July 2007 disappearance and the arrest as the case took multiple twists and turns that were detailed in a Lifetime movie and in a best-selling book called “Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery.”

Longtime Norwich mayor Peter Nystrom, who represented the city for 18 years in the state legislature before serving for 10 years as mayor, says the community was shaken.

“This was the case that bothered local people here quite a bit, but it is an opportunity to bring closure for the family,” Nystrom said in an interview. “That is a good thing. However, it’s a constant reminder of the horror and sadness of what took place.”

As a state legislator in the 1980s and 1990s, Nystrom worked closely with the families of the victims in the serial killings by Cornell University graduate Michael Ross, a Connecticut native who confessed to eight murders and was executed by lethal injection in 2005. The Gilgo cases were equally difficult on the families, but the long-running mystery has entered a new phase with the arrest.

“You want people to be held accountable, and certainly with something like this, to live all those years without any understanding of what happened or who is responsible — that has to gnaw at you,” Nystrom said.

The story of Barnes dates back to her younger days when she was a straight A student. But she got pregnant at age 16, gave birth at 17, and dropped out of Fitch High School in Groton. She had another baby seven years later and was working as a sex worker when she was last seen leaving a Super 8 motel in midtown Manhattan. Barnes was the first of the known victims to disappear.

Long Island serial killer prime suspect in Norwich woman’s murder; 2007 disappearance unsolved for 16 years

For more than a decade, investigators remained baffled as 11 bodies were discovered near Long Island beaches as they tried to find a notorious serial killer. But a new task force started re-examining the mystery less than two years ago, re-interviewed witnesses, studied phone records, and...

www.yahoo.com

I wonder if Maureen met up with Rex Heuermann at the hotel where she was last seen, on 46th Street between 5th & 6th avenues in Manhattan, since it was near his office: The motel where Maureen Brainard-Barnes was last seen
His office was only 8 blocks away, at 38th Street & 5th Avenue (385 Fifth Ave): RH Architecture - ABOUT
He could have met up with her at the hotel near his work and then invited her to come out to Long Island the next day for the “out-call” Maureen mentioned to her friend, because he knew his family would be away.

 

[digitective]

Something that jumped out at me while watching episode 2 of The Killing Season: why was Maureen at Penn Station, if she was trying to catch a train back home to Connecticut? I'm from Connecticut and trains to there only leave from Grand Central, not Penn Station. Penn Station trains do go to Long Island, though... maybe Maureen was taking a train out to LI instead to meet someone (a guy she knew or a john)?

I think she was at Penn Station to go to her out-call at Rex Heuermann’s house on Long Island. I don’t think she was trying to get back to Connecticut yet.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“I don’t like how they’re talking about her,” Ms. Cann told me. “I understand they only know what she was down there doing, and that’s what they look at her as. But it doesn’t matter what she did. She was still a mother. She still meant the world to her daughter, she meant the world to me.”

To Ms. Cann’s point, the news media does not frequently identify victims as prostitutes anymore, but as people who earn money with sex work. Earlier that morning, Gov. Kathy Hochul led an impromptu moment of silence in honor of the victims. It was a far cry from what Shannan Gilbert’s mother, Mari, once said: “I think they look at them like they’re throwaway. They don’t care.”

The Gilgo Beach Victims Were Always More Than Escorts

From the beginning, the women who were found murdered were reduced to being prostitutes. More than a decade after they went missing, that seems to have changed.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Mountain_Kat]

was just perusing info on Brainard-Barnes and found that at one time MBB apparently lived in Mays Landing, NJ (which is where the Atlantic City prostitutes were found...)

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?s...inard-barnes&city=&state=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

According to Maureen's sister, Missy , that info is not accurate. There is a whole discussion about it in Maureen's folder, and Missy was adamant that Maureen never lived in New Jersey.

 

[sds71]

Maureen Brainard-Barnes' 24-year-old daughter, Nicolette Brainard-Barnes, read a statement in what her attorney, Gloria Allred, described as her first public comments on her mother's death. She said she was present at the arraignment to speak for her mom.

“I was only seven years old when my mother was murdered,” Brainard-Barnes said. “Her death drastically changed the trajectory of my life. There are countless times I needed her and she was not there. I remember she read to me every night. And now I can no longer remember the sound of her voice.”

Brainard-Barnes said she was 7-years-old when her mother disappeared and that for years it looked like there might never be an arrest.

“While the loss of my mom has been extremely painful for me, the indictment by the grand jury has brought hope for justice for my mom and my family,” she said, adding that she hopes her mom is “remembered as a loving mothe

Gilgo Beach killings: Suspected serial killer Rex Heuermann charged with murder in death of 4th victim, Maureen Brainard-Barnes

Investigators believe Maureen Brainard-Barnes was the first of the "Gilgo Four" to be killed sometime after she disappeared in the summer of 2007.

www.newsday.com