WA WA - Carnation, 'Tolt Hill Jane Doe' WhtFem UP9536, 18-30, Jun'69

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  1. ctaylor

    ctaylor Member

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    I just read this article and could not find a thread on this case. An unidentified female was discovered near Carnation, King County on 5 June 1969, 23-25 years old, 105-115 pounds, 5'1"-5'2" with dark hair. Her body was exhumed on earlier this week in a bid to identify her with DNA and possibly close two further cold cases

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Can-DNA-from-dead-woman-crack-two-King-County-1829260.php

    I could not find anything for this Jane Doe on Doe Network or Namus however I did find a Jane Doe from King County, who was 21-28, 100 - 120 pounds, 5'0" - 5'4", brown haired and found on July 7 1969 - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/914ufwa.html

    Obviously very similar statistics to the Jane Doe exhumed this week but have seen a few articles now specifying it was definitely 5th June 1969 that the Carnation Doe was found. I wonder if the July 7th 1969 Jane Doe is one of the cases they hope to solve?

    The article says one case they are hoping to connect this Jane Doe to is that of a young woman, a portion of whose skull was found in 2006 three blocks away from the Jane Doe found on June 5 1969.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Here's another article. I had just started a new thread not realizing that this thread already existed. Since I was still within the edit-time-window I just deleted the thread and am reposting here.

    ’69 remains exhumed for DNA analysis

    Read more:
    http://www.bellinghamherald.com/201...s-exhumed-for-dna-analysis.html#ixzz1Ul0LLc9k
     
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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Posted 5:33 PM, February 6, 2015, by Parella Lewis, Updated at 08:43pm, February 6, 2015


    http://catchwmw.com/2015/02/06/murders-of-two-unidentified-women-could-be-work-of-serial-killer/

    "The state’s only forensic anthropologist, Dr. Kathy Taylor is trying to identify the remains of two women who she believes may have the same killer. “In 2006, up in the Tolt Hill neighborhood which is near Carnation, somebody found a partial cranium in their horse pasture. There is no face, it’s just the brain case,” Taylor explains. When she started researching missing persons cases in the area where the remains were found, she uncovered another mystery.

    “We looked back at a 1969 unidentified, still unidentified female that was recovered in the same general area. We realized that it is not only the same area, it’s a block, maybe two blocks a part.”
     
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    Four page list, one poi, on page 2, caught my eye because the alleged murder occurred in 1969 and the female victim, is apparently still missing.

    http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Suspected-or-convicted-serial-killers-in-1107863.php

    "Suspected or convicted serial killers in Washington
    Compiled by SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER STAFF
    Published 10:00 pm, Wednesday, February 19, 2003"

    rbbm.
    "William Batten
    Car lot worker, Aberdeen
    Committed to state psychiatric hospital as a "sexual psychopath" following child molestations in 1967. Stabbed two teenage hitchhikers to death near Moclips in 1975. He remains a suspect in the 1969 disappearance of a woman he had dated."
     
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    Can DNA from dead woman crack two King County cold cases?
    By LEVI PULKKINEN, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
    Updated 9:23 am, Wednesday, August 10, 2011


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    A King County Sheriff's Office detective's car is seen parked near the site where the remains of "Tolt Hill Jane Doe" were discovered on June 5, 1969. Investigators exhumed the woman's remains earlier this month, August 2011, hoping that DNA could help identify the woman and close two cold cases.
     
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    Cold case squad exhumes 'Tolt Hill Jane Doe' for DNA testing
    by SETH TRUSCOTT, Snoqualmie Valley Record Staff
    Aug 11, 2011 at 2:00PM updated Aug 16, 2011 at 2:37PM

    Her real name is a mystery. Forty-two years have passed since the Tolt Hill Jane Doe’s body was found on a dirt road in the Lower Snoqualmie Valley.

    All police know about “Jane” was that she was a dark-haired caucasian woman in her early 20s, slender and short.

    She was murdered some time that spring, and her unclothed body was casually left along the track of what would become 290th Avenue Northeast, then a dirt road with few neighbors. A passerby spotted her body on June 5, 1969.

    [...]

    In 2006, 37 years after Jane Doe’s murder, detectives found a piece of skull from another victim, likely a young woman, three blocks from where the first body was found. The skull fragment had been exposed to the elements for a long time, and was never identified.

    The skull that was found was so weathered, it probably dates to the same era as Jane Doe. Detectives now wonder whether the two deaths are related.

    [...]

    Anyone with information on the deaths is asked to call the King County Sheriff's Office at 206-296-3311.
     
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    Bumping this case.
    Two unidentified females, means two families, somewhere, are missing them.
     
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    Bumping, this case is solvable, especially now that it is being looked at again and LE has the DNA.
     
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    Has the DNA been put in CODIS yet?
     
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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    ^
    Assuming it has been put through, from bflocket's links ^.
    rbbm.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/914ufwa.html

    "Unidentified Female
    Date of Discovery: July 7, 1969
    Location of Discovery: Carnation, King County, Washington
    Estimated Date of Death: Unknown
    State of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
    Cause of Death: Unknown

    Physical Description
    ** Listed information is approximate

    Estimated Age: 18-30 years old
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'0-5'4"
    Weight: 100-120 lbs.
    Hair Color: Brown
    Eye Color: Unknown

    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

    Dentals: Available with WSP Missing/Unidentified Persons Unit and NCIC/NDIR. Extensive dental work. Teeth #5 and 6 are transposed in arch.
    Fingerprints: Not available.
    DNA: mtDNA and nucDNA are available at UNT. Ref #12-0252".


    https://identifyus.org/cases/9536

    "Exclusions
    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Laura Flink 1947 Washington
    Joan Hansen 1932 Washington"
     
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    The first set of remains doesn't seem to fit her description, but the second set of remains could be Patricia Diane French who disappeared from Vancouver, BC, likely around the same time that these girls were dumped here. Serial killer Harvey Carignan was operating in the area at the time and was known to go back and forth across the border quite a bit, although I don't know if he would have had the balls to cross the border with a victim.
     
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    I wonder, if they exhumed Jane Doe's body, why they didn't try to do a facial reconstruction? I guess it costs money and takes time, but since they found two people who were most likely dumped there around the same time one would think that there would be enough interest. Or if anything just send the picture of the skull to some amateurs or volunteers. We know Carl does amazing work, there are a few others as well..
     
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    Bump.
     

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