WA WA - Clark Co., Fem Skeletal 427UFWA, 13-16, near Fly Creek, Feb'80

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  1. JasonFutchLakeCityFL

    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    It hasn’t been explicitly stated, however there could have been parts of her neck muscle still attached. Not sure how long it would take for thick muscle to decompose, but certainly there may have been some muscle left when she was found.

    I found a case in the Spokane area where a cranium was found and the person may have been deceased for a couple of years. In the photo of the base of the skull, there was still muscle and nerve endings attached to where the brain was. It could be similar.

    I don’t think Cossey has been mentioned yet!
     
  2. Beekarina

    Beekarina Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the explanation.

    I was researching something else, and this young woman caught my eye. She's from Texas though, so that seems a bit unlikely, but perhaps?

    Sharing in case. The Doe Network: Case File 598DFTX
     
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  3. JasonFutchLakeCityFL

    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmm there could be a chance! I’ll look into it!
     
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  4. TmmEye

    TmmEye Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Futch, is there a chance this girl was a victim of human trafficking?
     
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  5. TmmEye

    TmmEye Well-Known Member

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    I think this woman is Chinooki (Native American), and I traced the tribe she could be from. The Chinooki tribe links this girl to two cities: Portland, Oregon or Vancouver, Washington.
     
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  6. TmmEye

    TmmEye Well-Known Member

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    It is also possible she IS native to Clark County
     
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  7. JasonFutchLakeCityFL

    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    There is a chance, but something deep tells me this has something to do with a relationship. I’m not sure why, however Human trafficking could play a role in this. But then yet again, we are talking about the late 70s when this woman was killed. Stranger Danger wasn’t a thing yet and women were carelessly hitchhiking through the country not knowing what they may or may not get into!

    I think she is. The Chinooks (or Chinooki tribe) is made up of several minor tribes within this area of the Northwest that stretches far down the Oregon Coast, into the Willamette Valley and SW Washington. The Multnomah, Clatskanie, Chelatchie, Grand Ronde and Cowlitz tribes fall under the chinooks I think. I would not doubt that at the end of the day, if she wasn’t from Mexico, she was perhaps a member of the Chinool tribe and perhaps fits under one of these subcategories.
     
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  8. JasonFutchLakeCityFL

    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    Heading into the area Friday to put up more flyers with the updated reward information on it! If anyone is in the area and would like to help me that would be awesome!
     
  10. theshadow45

    theshadow45 Well-Known Member

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    Bumping for Fly Creek Jane Doe.
     
  11. Bit of hope

    Bit of hope Well-Known Member

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    Please stop bumping....I will not forget her...When good content is coming I will be there. I know you do this with the best intentions but it adds noting.
     
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  12. taramarie

    taramarie Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the “bumps”. It reminds me to do my periodic searches for unreported missing people on message boards and social media.

    :)
     
  13. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Instead of just "bumping," it's helpful to do something like do a quick google search for new articles, or check the Namus or other pages for updates, etc. Even just reporting there's no news helps.
     
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  14. AnnieOakley

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    I'd like to revisit the discussion of Suzanne Justis for FCJD....
    OR - OR - Suzanne Justis, 23, Eugene, 5 Nov 1973

    Thoughts:
    A. The coroner originally believed these remains could have been 6 years old. (Re: Timeline concerns)
    B. FCJD found in same area as Martha Morrison (from Oregon). (Victim of Warren Leslie Forrest)
    C. Found in same area as Jamie Grissim's belongings. (Believed to be victim of Forrest)

    IF FCJD is a victim of Warren Leslie Forrest, she would have been left here prior to Oct 1974 (likely prior to Sept 1974 when Martha was left here)- Suzanne's timeline matches
    ETA: Suzanne was likely to be hitchhiking back to Eugene from Portland when she disappeared- Forrest's MO was picking up hitch-hikers
     
  15. AnnieOakley

    AnnieOakley Active Member

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    According to Ancestry records, Suzanne married Michael Justis on 2/4/68- in Vancouver WA. (So she did come to Clark Co at some point- not that that really tells us anything I suppose).

    They divorced in Lane Co OR in Nov 1971 (long before she disappeared). There is a "Justis" first inital J who was born in 1970 and attended Roseburg HS. He'd be the right age to be the son she was coming back to pick up, but I'm not finding anything conclusive on a son for Suzanne and Michael...
     
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  16. Mysteries1974

    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Suzanne can definitely be compared. She has dental charting and DNA samples available and submitted. I’ll send this to both regional contacts
     
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  17. JasonFutchLakeCityFL

    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    I need to make some slight corrections here. Martha was found on Larch Mountain with one other female victim, who was identified as Carol Valenzuela. Larch Mountain is about an hour from where FCJD was found. Despite the difference, its still relevant that FCJD could have been a victim of Warren Forrest. Dole Valley Road, where Jamie Grissim's belongings were found, were about the same distance from the FCJD site.

    WITH THAT SAID: I have considered Suzanne as FCJD because of some similar features. In the CW forum, I had also addressed this and the timeline. If Suzanne Justis was a victim of Warren Forrest in the 70s, Forrest knew how to get around the county obviously based on the crimes connected to him. I'm sure a time or two, he had been in the Chelatchie area, where the FCJD was found. @Mysteries1974 thank you for submitting this, please let us know something should you hear back!

    Also, @theshadow45, thank you for bumping and keeping this thread alive! Bumps for cases like FCJD's keep them alive!
     
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  18. Mrs. Badcrumble

    Mrs. Badcrumble The North remembers

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    I don't mean to add to the confusion here, but I read the quote above as the remains themselves were originally thought to be six years old, and not from a six year old.
     
  19. JasonFutchLakeCityFL

    JasonFutchLakeCityFL Well-Known Member

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    I’m such a doofus! Lol you are right, I edited this. I’ve been driving all day haha.
     
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  20. AnnieOakley

    AnnieOakley Active Member

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    Thank you for the correction-- I did err in saying that Martha and Carol were located in the same area as FCJD-- but I believe it's the same region of Clark County...From Forrest's nexus of living in Battle Ground, all of these locations would be about 30 min drive or less. I believe Warren Forrest was all over rural Clark County both as part of his job and his hobbies :/
     

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