WA - Douglas Spink charged with running 'bestiality farm', Sumas, 2010

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  1. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-04-16-bestiality-arrest_N.htm?csp=34

    Drug smuggler arrested in bestiality case in Wash.

    "A convicted cocaine smuggler has been arrested for running what authorities say appears to be a bestiality farm in Washington state in which visitors could engage in all sorts of twisted sex acts with animals.
    Douglas Spink was arrested at his ramshackle, heavily wooded compound near the Canadian border in Whatcom County along with a 51-year-old tourist from Great Britain who is accused of having sex with three dogs.

    Dozens of dogs, horses and pet mice were seized, along with what investigators described as thousands of images of bestiality and apparent child pornography. The mice were euthanized, said Whatcom County Sheriff Bill Elfo, whose office assisted federal agents in the case....."

    more at link
     
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  3. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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    He made the news last May when one of his prized studs was supposedly stolen.

    This article kind of makes it sound like they didn't believe the guy.




    http://abcnews.go.com/US/AmazingAnimals/story?id=4911317&page=1

    O.K who on God's green earth puts mice in vasaline? What a creep. Seems like coke smuggling is no big deal in comparison to how he hurt helpless animals.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh for heavens sake. I googled "bestiality websites" and can not believe the number of links that came up. That's vile. I'm no prude, but come on. That's illegal, no? Then again illegal or not is plain wrong and backward. Have your kinks, but when it comes to children and animals you need to be locked the he*l up. Stallions.net sgows up first in a google search and it's this guys. I am no way clicking on it, but you can see he lists Capone 1 on it. That's the stud he said was stolen. Sick, sick, sick man and sicker clients.
     
  4. kbl8201

    kbl8201 Former Member

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    jeez louise
     
  5. Kymistry35

    Kymistry35 It's never to late to be who you could have been

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    I don't even want to know where they put those poor mice...and I hate mice. I hope these animals can be rehabilitated and sent somewhere where they won't be abused. I'll be praying these sick freaks get some real prison time!
     
  6. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    I thought I remembered this guy!! I checked, though, and didn't see a thread under his name. Wasn't there an arrest about a month ago about a man in WA arrested for producing child porn with a young girl? Connected?
     
  7. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    From your link, Filly:

    " The stud is owned by Exitpoint Stallions, a private corporation described on its Web site as specializing in "the development and active sharing of a system of stallion management that embodies respect, kindness, empathy and understanding between equine and human."

    and

    "Spink described an intense relationship with Capone [ETA: the horse], whom he met nine years ago, calling him more than just a horse or an asset.

    Yuck, yuck, yuck. I hate it when they hide in plain sight!!!
     
  8. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    I feel for the Tourism Agency in Washington State. Not what a state needs right before the summer season begins.

    Ah...Mr. Lester, only 2 weeks ago. I wonder if he was trying to save money and do things at home or was part of the group?
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011550713_childporn08m.html

    Federal Way man charged with attempted child rape

    A 50-year-old Federal Way man is accused of trading child pornography for the chance to have sex with two girls and "train" them to have sex with dogs, according to charges filed this week.

    King County prosecutors have charged Tilden Laverne Lester Jr. with second-degree attempted rape of a child and possession of depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct. Lester, whom prosecutors consider "a danger to children," is being held in the King County Jail on $150,000 bail...."

    more at link
     
  9. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    Can we have the sanctimonious posters from Topix who ranted and raved with incredulity about the bestiality reported by the Mohler family victims please step forward? I'd really like to see what they have to say for themselves now. Cases like this and Dr. Bradley's video collection are horrid pieces of evidence which seem to be necessary for some people to actually believe that victims do not make these things up.

    Many are dismissive about the ritual and satanic abuse "hysteria" of the 80s. Are we so absolutely positive that it truly was hysteria? Maybe now that we're finally encountering hard, cold evidence, some people's brains will pry open a teensy bit and they'll finally believe that human beings can do wicked things. It's a shame it has to be this way.
     
  10. BOZGAL

    BOZGAL New Member

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    What a SICK & TWISTED FREAK :sick:

    Those poor innocent animals. :(

    jmho
     
  11. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-04-16-bestiality-arrest_N.htm?csp=34

    "....Authorities searched his [ETA; Spink's] farm Wednesday after prosecutors received a tip from a public defender's office in Tennessee. The office reported that Spink had been calling them incessantly about a jailed defendant in a bestiality case in Tennessee.

    That man, James Michael Tait, had previously admitted filming a man having sex with a horse in Enumclaw, Wash., in 2005. The man Tait filmed died of internal injuries suffered during the incident. He received a minor sentence in the case because Washington had relatively weak bestiality laws at the time."



    So, it seems as if the current investigation followed Spink's concern over the arrest of his buddy, Mr. Tait. Here's a link to the story of Mr. Tait, who filmed a man having sex with a horse. The man subsequently died from internal injuries.

    http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/5034/WA/US/

    "A Seattle man died after engaging in anal sex with a horse at a farm suspected of being a gathering place for people seeking to have sex with livestock, police said...."

    more at link

    So, if LE knew about this "farm" since 2005, why did it take so darned long to shut it down?
     
  12. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    FWIW, Whatcom County, where the "farm" is located is right on the Canadian border. The town, Enumclaw, WA, where Tait was arrested for filming bestiality, which resulted in a man's death, is 70 miles east of Seattle. It sounds to me as if there are or have been a number of farms as there's an obvious link between Spink and Tait.

    I also noted in the earlier article about Tait's sentence (which was light due to lack of appropriate laws against bestiality in WA), there is a statement that LE did not believe that money changed hands. That tells me that the currency was images. Being that the subject of child porn has come up in the current bust, my guess is that children have been involved for quite some time.
     
  13. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    I've snipped part of one of my own posts (Post #7) on the Lester thread concerning animal rights/anti-bestiality groups. Please look them over and see what you might be able to help with:

    "I've posted links before to organizations which are promoting stronger laws against bestiality. I suggest everyone pay attention to those laws as stricter sentencing would protect not only the animals but also children. We know that these vile acts are so often related.

    http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/anima...bestiality.php

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoosexuality_and_the_law

    This article talks about how legislation is in flux right now concerning these crimes. Lawmakers, obviously, don't look forward to working on these bills. We need to encourage them to make a strong stand in our states against this garbage.

    http://www.aldf.org/article.php?id=1098

    An excellent resource. Please bookmark it. It defines the crime and offers ideas for advocacy.

    If you are an animal love as well as an outspoken supporter of children's safety, I really urge you to write some emails to your lawmakers.

    Please note that these sites discuss very graphic and disgusting acts. They are definitely not for minors or for those who have triggers in this area."
     
  14. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    Here's the story of Mr. Tait's current charges in Tennessee. This is what led investigators to check our Spink, who kept trying to reach the prosecutors in Tennessee. Maybe he wanted to offer them a travel package if they'd let his friend off easy.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010096822_horsesex20m.html

    From Oct. 20, 2009

    "A former Washington state man who was convicted of trespassing at an Enumclaw farm where a man was fatally injured while having sex with a horse in 2005 is accused of having sex with animals on a Tennessee farm.

    James Tait, 58, was arrested and charged Thursday with three counts of felony animal cruelty in Maury County, Tenn. Kenny Thomason, 44, who lives with Tait, was charged with two counts of felony animal cruelty.

    "They've been having sex with full-grown horses," Maury County Detective Terry Chandler said Monday. "He [Tait] has been here for four years and it looks like it has been going on for some time......."

    and

    "[Det.] Chandler said he's investigating whether the farm was being advertised as some sort of bestiality destination — just as happened in the Enumclaw case. Chandler said that detectives have recovered several videotapes of men having sex with animals on the farm.

    more at link and lots of comments



    http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/10/20/james-tait-knows-how-to-handle-a-horse/

    Always a caution on this site as it has language and graphic descriptions.
     
  15. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_(film)

    So, an independent film was made about Tait and the man (named at this site) who died after the sexual encounter with the horse in Enumclaw, WA. Words fail me on this one. How did people sit through this film long enough to give it so many awards at Sundance and Cannes?

    I used to love independent films but can't wrap my mind around this description:

    "Sundance judges called it a "humanizing look at the life and bizarre death of a seemingly normal Seattle family man who met his untimely end after an unusual encounter with a horse"

    Humanizing? Unusual?

    I really feel that the ONLY way to stop this madness is to expose these "farms". Somehow I would think that many many farm visitors would be loathe to having their names in the paper. We've got to open our eyes!!
     
  16. kbl8201

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    think the guy that died probably got his just desserts, but the guy that filmed it, that could be a felony murder charge imo.
     
  17. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    Go to youtube and search for "zoo robinson devor". You can view a trailer for this film. I promise you there is absolutely no sexual content.

    I'd be very interested in everyone's reaction to this film. It is promoted as artful and sensitive. The words elegant, lyrical and beautiful are used. The trailer actually looks hazy and artsy.

    I'm sorry but I do not understand this. Animals don't have free will to consent to sexual activity....or do they? We don't allow them free will in sterilization or euthanasia. I guess one could question how we have the right to sterilize them, breed them, vaccinate them, and euthanize them; why wouldn't we have the right to have sex with them? Oh Lord. It really really makes me sad.

    If this film was so warmly welcomed and hailed, how many people actually participate in this activity and accept this as a norm, a sexual choice?
     
  18. RLynne

    RLynne Verified Expert

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    While I'm generally pretty accepting of alternative sexuality, bestiality totally squicks me out. However, I watched Zoo a few months ago (it was on Charter on demand for free, and I'd heard interesting reviews of it). It was...interesting, and I'd actually recommend it, I think*. For a film about really out-there sexuality, it has little actual sexual content. I thought it was fair. While it was sympathetic to 'zoophiles', it also addressed the issue of 'animals can't consent'. It was thought provoking (although zoophilia still squicks me out), and just all-around well put-together. Yes, it was very hazy and artsy throughout.

    *I say "I think", because while I'd totally recommend it to my in-real-life friends, I recognize that my crowd is generally a pretty liberal one when it comes to alternative sexuality. I mean, we're all Dan Savage fans. I'm not sure that more conservative folks would find it a worthwhile film.
     
  19. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    Thanks RLynne--I don't doubt that the film is thought provoking. I, too, am quite liberal and accepting of alternative sexuality (after all, I have a son who is very open about cross-dressing) but bestiality pushes me over the edge. In a way, I wish I could watch it but I just couldn't. I looked back over my posts today and I guess it's obvious that this is a hot-ticket item for me.

    My life has been full of animals. They were incredibly therapeutic for our special needs children and are now my therapy as I struggle with my disability. I honor them and respect them. When I hear proponents of zoophilia discussing a "higher plane of loving connection" between animals and humans, I'm reminded of the dogma of NAMBLA. I just can't help it. I'm worried that films such as "Zoo" could destigmatize these actions.

    I'm always on the look out for social problems and ways to "fix" them. I feel that WSers are the perfect candidates to write letters about this crime. Our state legislators need to know this is important to us.

    I was very impressed that Tait's crime (assisting in the sexual encounter between the horse and the man which resulted in the man's death) was integral to Washington's laws being changed. Prior to 2005, there were no laws against this crime in that state. Now, the crime is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. That's more like it. It's sad that it took a death to bring about this change, however.

    One thing that I keep coming back to, however, is the fact that money did not change hands and that child porn was found. I think this story will become much more ominous.
     
  20. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    For booking stud service, you go to this page:

    http://www.stallions.net/booking.php

    Which leads you here:

    http://www.threetreasuresfarms.com/

    "Our mission is to create a system that:

    Serves as a resource center for the care and development of rescue horses, disadvantaged and foster children.

    Provides a safe atmosphere in which self esteem and learning are enhanced.

    Creates a community of horses and people that value harmony and well-being.


    The site goes on to talk extensively about this farm's work with disadvantaged or foster children and rescue horses. I'm not quite sure why but this alarms me. I rarely see a non-profit or an organization specifically offer services to disadvantaged and/or foster children. I don't quite see how this links into booking expensive stud service for Exitpoint.

    It might be totally legit, however, where did the child porn come from and why was no money supposedly changing hands? Am I just far too jaded?


    I also found a forum specifically to discuss the "supposed" theft of Capone, the horse:

    http://www.symbioticminds.com/viewforum.php?f=14


    And look at this:

    http://www.symbioticminds.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=833&sid=8e1fe2c94ea9e04b01b60169cb8449f6

    Note that the truth has finally come out and Spink has been exposed!!
     
  21. Missizzy

    Missizzy New Member

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    Just a warning: this site involves the subject of dog breeding by Douglas Spink.

    http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/File:Douglas_Spink_1.PNG

    This was cached on a site I checked out while trying to learn where Spink had bred and raised puppies in Oregon. He had a way of inserting himself into "polite" society. I wonder if he gets some sort of thrill out of deluding legitimate breeders and organizations?

    Once again, the Portland suburb of Beaverton comes up. When I think of aberrant acts these days, I think of Blue Springs, MO and Beaverton, OR--both lovely family friendly towns. What a shame.
     

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