WA WA - Erin MacGregor, 18, Redmond, 19 Sept 1990

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  1. Kat

    Kat Kind words do not cost much

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 2787DFWA

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2787dfwa.html

    Erin Michelle Macgregor
    Missing since September 19, 1990 from Redmond, King County, Washington
    Classification: Endangered Missing



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    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: July 28, 1972
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7"; 120-125 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde, long hair; green eyes.
    Dentals: Available


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    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Erin M. Macgregor was an 18 year old high school student when she disappeared.
    She was living in the Sahalee area of Redmond with her mother and sister.
    The last reported sighting of Erin was on September 19th of 1990 when she left the home of her boyfriend, near Juanita High School. She failed to show up for three job interviews on September 20. Her purse and money were left at home.

    There have been no confirmed sightings of Macgregor since. On October 3, 1999 Macgregor’s car was found abandoned at an apartment complex at 5200 42 Avenue south in the Columbia City neighborhood of Seattle.
    At the time, this area was considered a high crime area due to drugs. Based on the investigation at the time, Macgregor had no known associates living at this apartment complex.

    A boy playing in a wooded area near Redmond found two credit cards belonging to Erin MacGregor, in April 1991. Police searching the area in woods near Alcott Elementary School turned up two other items: a key ring and wallet insert for photographs, both believed to be hers. No other clues were found in the woods.
    Detectives believe Macgregor was the victim of a homicide.



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    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    King County Sheriff’s Office
    Detective Scott Tompkins
    206-205-7810
    Email

    Agency Case #: 90-272527


    Source Information:
    King County Sheriff’s Office
    Seattle Post-Intelligencer
    WASPC

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/macgregor_erin.html
    More details at Charley Project.

    Erin is not listed in NamUs at this time.

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930122&slug=1681250
    Only article archived where I could find Erin mentioned.
    Friday, January 22, 1993 - Page updated at 12:00 AM
    IMHO Erin, does not fall into the description of the victims.

    Erin has been missing almost 20 years. Come home soon.
     

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  3. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Former Member

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    Erin Michelle MacGregor

    Endangered Missing

    Missing From: Sahalee, Washington

    Missing Since: September 19, 1990

    Age: 18 -- Height: 5'7" -- Weight: 120 lbs -- Hair Color: Blonde -- Eye Color: Green


    Erin was living in the Sahalee area of Redmond with her mother and sister.
    The last reported sighting of Erin was on September 19, 1990 when she left the home of her boyfriend, near Juanita High School. She failed to show up for three job interviews on September 20. Her purse and money were left at home.

    There have been no confirmed sightings of Erin since. On October 3, 1990 her car was found abandoned at an apartment complex in the Columbia City neighborhood of Seattle. At the time, this area was considered a high crime area due to drugs. Based on the investigation at the time, Erin had no known associates living at this apartment complex.

    A boy playing in a wooded area near Redmond in April 1991 found two credit cards belonging to Erin. Police searching the area in woods near Alcott Elementary School turned up two other items: a key ring and wallet insert for photographs, both believed to be hers. No other clues were found in the woods. Detectives believe Macgregor was the victim of a homicide.


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  4. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Former Member

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    BUMPING for Erin, now missing for 22 years.

    Here's an article from about 5 months after Erin vanished...


    Death Of Mother Intensifies Effort To Find Missing Girl

    Relatives and friends are hoping that the death of a Redmond woman early this month might at least bring information about her missing daughter.

    ``We wanted to get the message out,'' said Lee MacGregor, former husband of the dead woman and father of the missing girl.

    The woman, who died Feb. 2, was 41-year-old Annie Schubert.

    The missing girl is her daughter, Erin MacGregor, 18, who was last seen in September.

    More: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910217&slug=1266698
     
  6. Sally Steeltoe

    Sally Steeltoe New Member

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    I can't believe how little information there is online about this case, and what little there is is rather fishy. Here's a video I found somewhat recently:

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2011/03/22/can-you-solve-this-king-county-cold-case-q13/

    There are a number of strange things about this case:

    1) I find it odd that they couldn't figure out which police officer in Federal Way ran her plates. Her car was pretty distinctive with the multi-colored paint job, yet nobody could remember running the plates?
    2) I also find the alleged previous assaults on her boyfriend (mentioned on http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/macgregor_erin.html) to be kind of odd. Were the police contacted at the time of these assaults? Was the boyfriend thoroughly questioned after Erin's disappearance?
    3) I've found some discrepancy between articles about whether Erin disappeared the day of her job interviews or the following day (i.e. the video I posted above states that she didn't make it to her interviews but DID make it to her boyfriend's house that evening, where other sources indicate she didn't make it to either the interviews OR her boyfriend's house that evening).
    4) Finally, nobody in Columbia City noticed a car sitting there with its lights off, until the battery went dead?

    It just seems like this girl vanished a little too quietly. It's heartbreaking, too, that her mother died so shortly afterward.
     
  7. obliviousrainbow

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    I agree! It makes me so sad that she went missing and there are no leads...and I feel bad that her mom died before finding out anything that happened to her daughter!
     
  8. neverletgo

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    :wagon: to Websleuths, Sally Steeltoe and obliviousrainbow!

    Thank you for your posts on Erin's thread! :gthanks:
     
  9. Kodiak

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    I lived and grew up in the area and remember when it happened as I was a year younger than Erin at the time of her disappearance. My mother followed this case at the time and throughout the years, probably since I had three sisters at the time, too, to warn them of strangers and any strange activities at the time and thereafter.

    I did some research to get this thread and case rolling:

    Young Eastside Woman Vanishes
    The Seattle Times - September 27, 1990
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19900927&slug=1095306

    Clues Sought About Missing Redmond Woman
    The Seattle Times - October 3, 1990
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901003&slug=1096335

    Missing Redmond Woman's Car Found
    The Seattle Times - October 5, 1990
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901005&slug=1096669

    Police Still Stumped By Disappearances

    The Seattle Times - October 29, 1990
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901029&slug=1101149

    Missing Woman's Cards, Key Ring Found In Woods
    The Seattle Times - April 16, 1991
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910416&slug=1277772

    Clues Still Eluding Police -- Body Discovery Renews Hunt For Missing Women
    The Seattle Times - July 11, 1991
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910711&slug=1293827

    Missing-Woman Cases Prompt Offers Of Reward
    The Seattle Times - August 13, 1991
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910813&slug=1299769

    Police Say Serial Murderer At Work In 3 Counties

    The Seattle Times - January 22, 1993
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930122&slug=1681250

    Redmond Woman Missing Since 1990 Now Declared Dead

    The Seattle Times - January 12, 1998
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19980112&slug=2728325

    Two Detectives Reopen '90 Missing-Woman Case

    The Seattle Times - August 19, 1999
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19990819&slug=2978182

    3 missing women: No bodies, no clues
    The Seattle Times - April 20, 2000
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000420&slug=4016486
     
  10. Kodiak

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    I asked my mother about the case and she remembers so many details about it. She said that our local eastside newspaper, "The Eastside Journal" (now defunct) which, if I remember correctly at the time, went by the name "The Journal American," before it changed its name to TEJ and went out of business ...

    ... anyway, this suburb paper she said had more detailed articles about the case from the beginning and later on. She remembers there was an article in that paper that was published before or after Erin's Honda CRX was found. It stated something about an Asian man was seen driving Erin's car a few days after she and her car disappeared. She can't recall where or when the man was seen driving it, but remembered the article had a very detailed description of the man.

    TEJ and TJA archives aren't online, but the main Bellevue Library should have them all on microfiche as I did some unrelated research in 1999 or 2000 at that library from the TJA/TEJ archives as there were two huge drawers of microfiche film of the papers. I'm no longer in the area, but it someone who is local, that would be the library to retrieve them. Also, the Suzzalo Library at the University of Washington might have the papers archived as well.

    My mom also told me to ask my older sister about the article because they both discussed it after reading it. I will talk with her tonight and get back.
     
  12. Sally Steeltoe

    Sally Steeltoe New Member

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    Thank you for posting these, Kodiak. Interesting that only one article reports that Erin's purse had actually gone missing days before her disappearance. Until then, I had thought the credit cards, etc. found in the woods represented one of the stronger clues. Sigh.

    I still wish there was more information about the attack on her boyfriend, and the notes left in his car. That is...strange.
     
  13. Kodiak

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    You're welcome, Sally Steeltoe. Yes, concerning her purse, that was the first time I had heard about it, too. So, if they say she left her purse at home the day of she vanished, was it an alternate purse/bag?

    Yes, the attack on the boyfriend was very strange. How could he not give a description of the guy? Something is very peculiar about this entire case. And I wonder if the disappearance of the Redmond woman who went missing on September 30th is related to Erin's case?
     
  14. Kodiak

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    From the September 27, 1990 article, it states:

    If this is true, sounds like her boyfriend was being followed ... an unknown man comes out of nowhere asking if Erin was his girlfreind ... the next day the death threat note was found on his car.

    If Erin did not have enemies, then the boyfriend did. And perhaps this unknown guy wasn't the his direct enemy, just a henchman of the enemy to do his bidding. And perhaps, Erin was completely innocent and unaware of whatever the possible circumstances were about, and she was the victim of it.
     
  15. Kodiak

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    Re-examining the details of the case and from viewing the video link from another poster above, this case really is frustrating. With no disrespect to the police, but how do they think there is going to be any cooperation from the public with the very few details given? Everything is vague and inconsistent.

    What we need to know is clarification of the details. What was the timeline of events? Where did Erin hang out with friends at the time? Where did they hang out in Seattle? What was the name of the club? What were her activities the days prior leading up to her disappearance? Who was it that supposedly last saw Erin entering an apartment complex in Juanita near Juanita high school? Was one of three interviews at the apartment? And how do the police know that she really did not show up to any of the interviews?

    If they want help from the public, there needs to be more answers to such questions.
     
  16. Sally Steeltoe

    Sally Steeltoe New Member

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    My thoughts exactly. I haven't wanted to say it out loud, but reading these articles so many years later, there seems to be a combination of lazy police work and inconsistent reporting. What makes it even more surprising is that Erin was a young, pretty white girl--it seems like this is EXACTLY the kind of case that would get a lot of attention from the police, the media AND the public. But there's almost nothing out there.

    Another thing I haven't wanted to say out loud: I'm suspicious of the boyfriend.

    Finally, beyond listings on the NAMUS and other directories, there are no "missing" or memorial pages for Erin anywhere. So often the family and friends of a missing person (again, especially one who resembles Erin) usually keep SOMETHING going, even if they assume their loved one is probably dead. I wonder if, had her mother lived, this case wouldn't have gone away so completely. (I can't find any fault with the sister, though--she's been through enough.)
     
  17. Kodiak

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    From the very few details that we do have, I'm tempted to create a BOLO Flyer for Erin. Either a Cold Case flyer or a Missing Person Flyer. Probably a Cold Case flyer as that's what it is after 23 years.

    BOLO FLYER
     
  18. Sally Steeltoe

    Sally Steeltoe New Member

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    That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of! I know I've seen Facebook pages, but I've seen other web sites as well. Where does the BOLO flyer go once it's created (i.e. where is it hosted)?

    Let me know if you need any help.
     
  19. Kodiak

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    It's a web flyer image hosted on the FB page that can be instantly distributed and shared by the public for social media purposes and websites, email, etc. Anyone is free to pass it along online. It's fast, free, and is viewable on all mobile devices, too. We live in a fast on-the-go society where no one takes the time to view a printed flyer on the street, but if it's a web flyer on their phone or mobile pad, it's a different story!
     
  20. Sally Steeltoe

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    I don't think my last message posted, so I'll try again:

    I think it's a great idea. It looks like it can also be posted on other sites as well (just not printed, which isn't a big deal). I hope the search engines pick it up so that if someone searches for Erin's name, it comes up.

    Again, let me know if you need any help. This weekend I'll try to compile what "facts" and inconsistencies I'm aware of.
     
  21. Kodiak

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    Yeah, the Google bots scan websites and forums faster than they used to in the past. It used to take weeks, even months, for bots to scan and post info and images on the net for them to come up in searches. Now, bots are twice as fast and the flyers and their cases come up within days on google ... and when you search this forum... this post will be bot scanned and viewable online under Erin Macgregor by the end of today.

    Yes, the web flyer is an 80ppi PNG(RGB) image and I can convert it to a white flyer (CMYK) print flyer if needed by request.
     

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