WA WA - Jay Cook, 20, & Tanya Van Cuylenborg, 18, Skagit County, 24 Nov 1987

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  1. graceless

    graceless New Member

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    Hello again!

    Another case that has haunted me is the murder of a young couple from Victoria, British Columbia.

    My sweetheart and I had barely moved in to our new home in Bellingham at the time of this horrific crime. We were living in an isolated cabin on the shores of Lake Samish just south of town and I can remember getting chills down my spine as details of this case became available. I wasn't much older than Jay at the time and when Tanya was found just miles from our house it made me dread the nights when I would find myself alone in the woods. I would later discover that someone had been staying/sleeping(?) in our detached garage during this time period, adding to the creep factor. We found a "survival kit" with lots of little weird things in a plastic bag.

    Unsolved Mysteries did a segment on the crime, but as of today there have been no arrests in the case. When I saw the 48 Hours episode on "The Sweetheart Murders," I was struck by the similarities. I contacted LE and was basically blown off (big surprise--lol). To me, the fact that the convicted killer in that case just HAPPENED to be in WA at the time of Jay and Tanya's murder, used zip ties and had targeted a young couple very similar to this couple seemed like it might be worth looking into . . . call me crazy--lol


    Here are some links:

    http://www.theprovince.com/story_print.html?id=2417538&sponsor=

    http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20081214/NEWS01/712149872

    I will try and find links to the Unsolved Mystery segment and will post what I can find.

    I would love to see this crime be moved from "Cold Case" to "Solved."

    Blessed be--
    graceless


    The world breaks everyone ... those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.

    ERNEST HEMINGWAY
    A Farewell to Arms
     
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  3. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting Graceless. And welcome to WS!! :)
     
  4. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    Do we NOT have a thread on these two? If not I'll start one....
     
  5. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    Well dayum!! I'm still recovering from a concussion. You started a thread. :floorlaugh:
     
  6. STANDREID

    STANDREID A slacker when slacker wasn't cool

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    Yes, I remember this on Unsolved Mysteries and it's in a book I have around here, I believe. It was also covered in at least one detective magazine, if I recall.
     
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    "Murder Mystery: Canadian couple visiting Seattle killed; families offering huge reward to solve case"

    http://catchwmw.com/2015/06/26/murder-mystery-canadian-couple-visiting-seattle-killed-families-offering-huge-reward-to-solve-case/


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    I just watched this episode on unsolved mysteries on Amazon Prime. I cannot believe this is still unsolved! There is no way this crime was the perpetrators only murder.
     
  9. CursSleuth

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    What I could read all about this case and using/tracing their steps through GoogleMaps I guess they met their murder in the second ferry. Probably he got into conversations with them and ask them for a lift...
     
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    Doesn't anyone else find it strange that everything started in Canada, and made a loop all the way back to the Canadian border?
    I would bet money that the killer/s knew the couple in their hometown and followed them into Washington.
    They never did say what business errand the kid was doing for his father in Washington. That may be a key to the whole mystery.
    Something just does not add up. Has anyone thought of the possibility of the kids being drug mules? Before legalization, a lot of marijuana was coming down from Canada at that time through the ferry system. The fact the killer/s dumped the bodies as they headed north back towards the border tells me they were likely Canadian criminals. The van was abandoned near the border in Bellingham by a Greyhound bus station. Whoever committed this crime could have easily hopped on a bus and went right back to Canada.
     
  11. Blondie in Spokane

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    I read in one of the above links that they were picking up a furnace part for Jay's father.
     
  12. CursSleuth

    CursSleuth New Member

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    It was a Furnace.

    To me they don't seem those sort of lads carrying dope or drug.
    But why do you think is strange that everything started in Canada? They were Canadian citizens living in Saanich, British Columbia.
    I think they thought a good plan and joy to go down to Seattle to help the boy's father.
    Police in Skagit county know that at about 10:15pm they purchased a ferry ticket at the Bremerton (Washington) ferry dock for the 11:35pm to Seattle (Washington). Police know this because they found Jay's bronze van in Bellingham next to a Greyhound bus depot on November 25. Inside the van it was found the tickets of the ferry from Bremerton to Seattle. The bodies and the van were found across the Central Basin region of Puget Sound. This shows that, probably, they met their killer while on the ferry. The killer probably asked them for a ride before they reached land.
     
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    I am posting the itinerary of Jay and Tanya from November 24 until November 26. It gives alot of a bigger perspective.

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    Police in Washington state to provide new DNA evidence in cold case murder of Victoria couple


    https://www.cheknews.ca/washington-...n-cold-case-murder-of-victoria-couple-437450/

     
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    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/face-o...uple-1.3880381
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/4137992/...-case-involving-vancouver-island-sweethearts/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0DNIR20gss
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