WA WA - Seattle, WhtFem 159UFWA, 33-45, alias 'Mary Anderson', Oct'96

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  1. outofthedark

    outofthedark Lyle Stevik's FB Hostess

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    Unidentified White Female

    Located in Seattle, King County, Washington on October 11, 1996

    Cause of death was suicide.


    Vital Statistics
    Estimated Age: 33 - 45 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8"; 240 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish-brown hair and brown eyes. She used a copper intrauterine device. She had some sort of breast surgery at some point. It had produced scars beneath both breast and around the nipple area. Her hair was combed, her nails were painted cream white and she wore make-up.
    Dentals: Dental plate
    Clothing: She wore black leggings and a black top.


    Case History
    This woman committed suicide in Seattle, WA. She checked in to a room at Seattle's Hotel Vintage Park on October 9, 1996 under the name Mary Anderson. She paid cash for her room. She left an non-existent address of 132 East Third Street, New York, NY 11103; and a phone number of 212-569-5549; the phone number does not exist either. When she failed to check out of her room two days later as expected, hotel staff entered the room and found her deceased. She had taken cyanide.
    Investigators found a note scribbled upon hotel stationery:

    To Whom It May Concern.
    I have decided to end my life and no one is responsible for my death.
    Mary Anderson.
    P. S. I have no relatives. You can use my body as you choose.

    A large black Bible lay open across her chest. It was opened to the Twenty-Third Psalm.

    The woman's miscellaneous belongings -- velour outfits, shoes, slippers, black leather gloves, leather purse, Estée Lauder cosmetics, toothpaste, perfume, Metamucil, Crystal Light, panty hose, a kitchen bowl, and an iron -- were packed in several luggage bags.


    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    King County Medical Examiner's Office
    206-731-3232


    Agency Case Number:
    96-1207 Source Information:
    Seatle PI
    Whamee.com

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/159ufwa.html
     
  2. EdinburghLass

    EdinburghLass Member

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    I am glad someone posted this case. It has always intrigued me.

    Here is another link for poor Mary

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/mary/ - Who was Mary Anderson and how did she die?

    If she said that she has no family, it would be so hard to identify her as it is unlikely she was reported missing.

    So sad....:(
     
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  4. outofthedark

    outofthedark Lyle Stevik's FB Hostess

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    When I reviewed this case, I thought it was strangely similar to the "Lyle Stevik" one

    Similarities

    - both checked into Washington hotels
    - both committed suicide 2 days after they checked into the hotels
    - both had surgeries at one time in their lives
    - both gave adresses that were not their own (hers was non-exsistent, his was for a motel in Idaho)
    - both paid for hotel rooms in cash
    - both left notes
     
  5. EdinburghLass

    EdinburghLass Member

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    Strange coincidences. The surgery one is probably just a fluke because most people have had some form of surgery in their lives. But the rest is quite strange.
     
  6. outofthedark

    outofthedark Lyle Stevik's FB Hostess

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    Very strange coincidences, wonder if LE ever knew about the coincidences between both cases??

    Hopefully someone knows who Mary is...
     
  7. Angels_Not_Forgotten

    Angels_Not_Forgotten Anxiously Awaiting a WINNING NFL Season!

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    unfortunatley, IMO none of the things add up to a "pact" or even connect. a lot of people commit suicide outside of homes or places where they are comfortable.
     
  8. outofthedark

    outofthedark Lyle Stevik's FB Hostess

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    I didn't think so myself about the cases connecting- I thought it was kind of a small coincidence, less of a connection
     
  9. Julessleuther

    Julessleuther Well-Known Member

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  10. Jaded

    Jaded Former Member

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    I wonder if the IUD would have had a lot number to cross reference to what physician it was sold to?
     
  11. Julessleuther

    Julessleuther Well-Known Member

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    I do not think she was sold to a physician. Under the first link, near the bottom of the page is this:

    Her body was embalmed and buried at King's County expense in Seattle's Crown Hill Cemetery at Grave No. 197-A.
     
  12. Jaded

    Jaded Former Member

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    IUD - the birth control device that they said she had. Generally medical devices have serial numbers or lot numbers. I wonder if they are able to ascertain if the IUD (intrauterine device) has such a number.
     
  13. Julessleuther

    Julessleuther Well-Known Member

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    Ohhh! Duhhhh! Sorry about that Jaded!! I was thinking UID (Unidentified) See, I think I need to mainline Starbucks before I do anything in the morning, I just cannot function without coffee!! :) :angel:
     
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  14. LisainWV

    LisainWV New Member

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    The 2 reconstructs on doenetwork look like 2 entirely different people.

    If i'm not mistaken, IUD's are left in for extended periods of time?

    Wonder what breast surgery she would have had? Certainly not implants, ot they would have mentioned that?
     
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  15. Julessleuther

    Julessleuther Well-Known Member

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    I agree-when I read the description of her and saw the picture, I thought she was alot thinner than they described. The second picture appears to be more what her size woud have been. I was wondering about the surgery too--I wonder if she had breast cancer?
     
  16. Jaded

    Jaded Former Member

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    Maybe she had breast reduction. If she would have had implants, again those implants would have serial numbers on them that would allow LE to narrow down who she was.

    I'm not sure how long IUD's are placed.
     
  17. LisainWV

    LisainWV New Member

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    Info on iud's....

    http://www.fwhc.org/birth-control/iudinfo.htm

    last 1- 10 years.
    2 types - paraguard and mirena. paraguard is the type with the copper wire (this is what Jane doe had).

    Read down on this site and it says the other type mirena, cannot be used in someone with a history of BREAST CANCER. Her breast surgeries may well have been to remove lumps.
     
  18. Kymistry35

    Kymistry35 It's never to late to be who you could have been

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    I thought they stopped doing the copper ones?
     
  19. Sable

    Sable Former Member

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    If I had to guess based on experience, I would say it sounds like the scars are from a breast reduction. I had one done a few years ago, and the description of the scars sounds a lot like my scars with only one exception. They didn't mention (which might mean there wasn't) a scar down the center from nipple to bottom. There are other ways the surgery is performed, based on the current size and what size you want them to be reduced to. The anchor (what I have) is the most common. I'd have to look it up to be sure, but it might be possible to have them reduced and end up with just the scar along the bottom and the scar around the nipple. Also, wanted to add that a lot of times the surgery is considered cosmetic, but it's possible that insurance (if she had it) could have paid for some or all of it.

    It sounds to me that she had a fairly well paying job, considering the makeup found. It's the expensive stuff.... completely different price range than what we sell at Walgreens (I work the cosmetics department at a Walgreens). Also, since the IUD suggests she was sexually active, perhaps she worked as an escort? I mean no offense, but that type of job I assume would pay someone the money to be able to afford the more expensive makeup and provide a reason for needing an IUD along with the possibility of that being the reason she had no family. If she worked as an escort perhaps she was disowned because her family didn't approve. This is one of many many possibilities, and I just wanted to throw my opinon out there. Anything is possible.

    Another thing about the makeup... It's most likely too late, and may not have even been the case, but back in October I went shopping with my mom and she bought me something from the Estee Lauder counter. I had one of those free makeovers and they had me fill out a card with my information and the products I liked/tried. It was a promotion they were doing and they said they would keep it on file for a year so that if I came back wanting to purchase one of the items I tried, I would have no problem finding the color or product. Maybe something similar was done when the UID purchased her makeup?
     
  20. rpipergirl

    rpipergirl proud owner Kidmissing

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    Her psydomym was "Mary Anderson/Andrews" depending on which article you read. She killed herself in a fancy hotel called Hotel Vintage Park in Seatle,WA.
    Doe network info: Estimated age: 33 - 45 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8"; 240 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish-brown hair and brown eyes. She used a copper intrauterine device. She had some sort of breast surgery at some point. It had produced scars beneath both breast and around the nipple area. Her hair was combed, her nails were painted cream white and she wore make-up.
    Dentals: Dental plate
    Clothing: She wore black leggings and a black top.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/159ufwa.html

    This is a case my mom Sadnews on here has been working on,so, I thought I'd add her to see what ideas we could come up with if we all put our heads together.
     

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