WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

Discussion in '2010's Missing' started by Texas Mist, Mar 15, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Calliope

    Calliope Former Member

    Messages:
    6,534
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    BBM

    What family other than the fiance, ex and boy's father have we heard speak out on this?
     


  2. Texas Mist

    Texas Mist Retired WS Staff

    Messages:
    9,218
    Likes Received:
    89
    Trophy Points:
    0
    We haven't heard about Azriel saying his mom was drinking (Robb said she had a relapse)...we heard about the diner waitress saying he said his mom hit her head.

    Have you heard or read Azriel said his mom was drinking?
     
  3. Calliope

    Calliope Former Member

    Messages:
    6,534
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Police say she left town at 5 pm. (which, btw, was 30 minutes after RS was finished with his training). She supposedly called RS at 6:45 and said she was lost in Olympia.
     
  4. trigger

    trigger Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,543
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I think we have to find out what time he arrived there.
     
  5. Calliope

    Calliope Former Member

    Messages:
    6,534
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48

    BBM.

    Thank you.
     
  6. justme96

    justme96 New Member

    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Since Feb there has been three missing women in the Pacific North West. 17-year-old Mackenzie Cowell in Wenathcee Washington, 24-year-old Katherine Huether car found at Bonneville Dam in Washington's Skamania County. And now Shantina and her son.

    Although Katherine Huether may have fallen, Both women were found in the Columbia River Gorge.

    This has to seem odd to some people. All in Washington State and since Feb.
     
  7. trigger

    trigger Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,543
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Wouldn't that be wonderful!
     
  8. lawlady84

    lawlady84 New Member

    Messages:
    1,184
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm only up to page 22, but this is NOT TRUE. Both Shantina AND Az have a permanent restraining order from 2005 against a 34 year old guy (initials CBW) who lives in Castle Rock. She applied for an emergency temporary order, then had a hearing, then was granted a permanent order. (All from WA public court records). It's under the category "Domestic Violence."

    The Docket doesn't say what happened. When was the last time she went to Castle Rock? I would think driving alone with your son down to the area where your abuser lives could be traumatizing - coupled with the relapse, anti-anxiety meds, etc.


    I really think this police department should be careful with what they say. First, no history of substance abuse; now, relapsed alcoholic. Now no history of domestic violence, yet public records shows an order of protection. Either LE should do a little more digging, or not make these statements to the public.
     
  9. reen

    reen New Member

    Messages:
    529
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Really bad! And the keys were found on the dash, not in the ignition. Guess I'll stay away from Examiner articles too. LOL
     
  10. justme96

    justme96 New Member

    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    They haven't said anything about looking into to her Computer History. She met RS on the computer, could she have been talking to anyone else? Could she have told someone she would be on this trip? Could she have been running from someone, or maybe she didn't want RS to follow her on this trip and she has decided to run for awhile. The call from the payphone at 6:45 to RS. wouldn't they know the location of the payphone by now and be able to put that into the timeline? Could someone have slipped her something and followed her?
     
  11. Lipin One

    Lipin One New Member

    Messages:
    361
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    At this point nobody and everybody is a suspect. She either got out and she is out there somewhere, or she met harm somewhere along the way.

    My question is, does he have anything to gain? Did she accept his marriage proposal? Was the home in his or her name? Was there an insurance policy somewhere?
     
  12. Calliope

    Calliope Former Member

    Messages:
    6,534
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Thought he had all these "health issues" and had just recently asked her to marry him?


    Also, in the comments I noticed this:

    Has that been included in any of the articles yet?
     
  13. coklat

    coklat New Member

    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Just to clear up some geography -- while Mackenzie and Katherine were both found near the Columbia River, only Katherine was in the gorge; Mackenzie was found hundreds of miles away in Wenatchee.

    IMO, there is no apparent connection between the three cases, though it is a sad coincidence.
     
  14. Chili Fries

    Chili Fries Man Sleuth

    Messages:
    2,494
    Likes Received:
    86
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Thanks for pointing that out. Looks like he's 31 and has an 18 year old girlfriend, and it looks like they've been together for more than a year.
     
  15. lawlady84

    lawlady84 New Member

    Messages:
    1,184
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I checked out what I could about DW - the owner of the house where she made the call. He's DHW, and clean as a whistle. But boy, are there a lot of people named DW on the sex offender registries!

    DW and wife have 2 boys in their early 20s. TW, one of them, made a comment to the media in one of the articles posted here that Shantina didn't look drunk or anything. So at least he was home at the time. I feel like if Shantina was really that drunk/high on RX drugs, at least the 23 year old son would have noticed something.

    Someone earlier also said maybe she went down that little road so her son could use the bathroom - but just a little while earlier she was at DWs house, and surely could have used their bathroom
     
  16. waterpants

    waterpants New Member

    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No, sorry. I meant when he said "mommy hit her head" this may be a "mommy drinking" excuse. Sorry for the confusion.
     
  17. marcyjoy

    marcyjoy Active Member

    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Are we sure she took I-5 to Olympia? For those familiar with WA State, is there a chance that in order to miss traffic maybe she went down the peninsula and then ended near Shelton and back north to Olympia? Might explain some of the lost time...
     
  18. lawlady84

    lawlady84 New Member

    Messages:
    1,184
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I know some folks think we're obsessing over the fiancee. Realistically, I don't think he had anything to do with this directly. But the website just rubs me the wrong way! I can't get over it. Hours after your fiance and her child goes missing, you make an outline detailing YOUR moves? Who cares! Compare this to Nancy Moyer's website (nancymoyer.com) - it's all about her, details her tattoos, huge fonts with phone numbers.

    With Robb, I immediately thought "manufactured alibi." It just came off as overcompensating. But it fully could just be a nervous reaction to the 24/7 Nancy Grace media. Like Marc Klaas giving DNA/polygraph immediately so the focus wouldn't be on him.
     
  19. swanniee11

    swanniee11 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,651
    Likes Received:
    26,008
    Trophy Points:
    113

    although i found the case I did not see who CBW is, it maybe because I couldnt open a file or something. Could someone PM me that info?
     
  20. justme96

    justme96 New Member

    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If she went through Shelton she would have had to cross over I-5 to get to that side of Olympia. Either way she would have trying to get back to I-5 south. I could see her going the wrong way trying to get onto I-5.

    If she made the call 6:45 saying that she was stopping to eat but she only orders food for A at 9 that doesn't make sense.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice