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Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police #4

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  1. Blue_Dolphin308

    Blue_Dolphin308 We can't help everyone, But everyone can help some

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    Starting fresh here for Friday. Less confusing I think. Continuing on from here
     
  2. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=c7ea64a0-da1b-4f62-a73f-cd5d024922f8

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    Back in the late 90s, Sterling Harker made it known that he was opposed to marriages between underage girls and older men. He says that put him on Warren Jeffs' "blacklist." Jeffs would eventually take away his two wives and children and kick him out of the FLDS sect. "He just cuts people off," Sterling said. "No remorse, No consideration. Ruthless."

    But with the state of Texas now in control, Sterling has at least a faint hope that he can get custody of his two youngest daughters, LaDonna, 13, and Shauna, 11. The child welfare system in Texas favors relatives over foster care as long as the children are kept from the abusive environment. Sterling still lives among the FLDS, but he no longer is a member of the sect. "All I can say is that I'm the biological father. I love my family. I have always loved them."
     
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    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    http://www.ksl.com/?sid=3108410&nid=148


    Police in Colorado Springs, Colo., have arrested a woman for allegedly making false reports to authorities. Those reports may be linked to the raid of an FLDS compound in Texas.
    Texas rangers were on hand in Colorado as part of the FLDS investigation when Rozita Swinton was arrested, though Colorado authorities aren't giving further explanation. However, well-known anti-polygamy activist Flora Jessop claims she led authorities to Swinton after receiving several calls from her in the last two weeks.
    "She was claiming that her sister, Sarah, was the one who made the original call in Texas, that her baby had been taken away from her, and that she was afraid to come forward and talk because she'd been threatened," Jessop said. Jessop believes Swinton was the one who called Texas authorities, prompting the raid of the FLDS ranch. Swinton was not arrested by Texas authorities, so her connection to the case is unknown.
     
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    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...12/detail.html

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    Call7 Investigators reported this is not be the first time Swinton has been arrested on charges of making false reports to authorities. The Colorado Springs charge against Swinton was made in connection to calls received by police in February indicating she was 13 years old and trapped in a basement.

    Local police said Swinton had been under investigation for some time on that accusation, but police made an immediate arrest after the Texas Rangers became involved, according to ABC News.
     
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    BarnGoddess Former Member

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    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    This call from June sounds eerily similar to Sarah's call. She called one day and called the second day saying she changed her mind.

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8969094?source=rv

    On June 23, 2005, Castle Rock police arrested her on a misdemeanor charge of false reporting, according to CBI records. Det. Sgt. Scott Claton said an adoption agency called June 21, 2005, saying a woman identifying herself as Jessica called saying she was considering giving up her baby to adoption.
    She later left a letter on the agency's door saying she changed her mind and was considering leaving the infant at a fire station and
    committing suicide.
     
  7. Blue_Dolphin308

    Blue_Dolphin308 We can't help everyone, But everyone can help some

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    Regardless if this video is true, This still will not do anything to the case. Because, when they went in originally they were looking for a sarah. They had the search warrnet and acted in good faith, to look for sarah and anything that pertained to her. When they found that the other children were being abused, they went and got another search warrent. The authorites went in under "valid suspicion" or "Just cause" They went in originally "in good faith" which means that they did not go in to delbritly harrass these people.. How were they to know that if in fact this story is true, that it was a hoax? How were they to know that???? CPS has a duty to investigate ALL claims of abuse, and thats what they were doing. So this "new development" will not affect the case one bit. Because there was bause going on, therefore the warrents still Stand.

    Also how would this woman know that there was a Sarah on the property?? That she had an 8 month old??? And that she was preganant again??? That her husband was Dale barlow???To me it seems to be pretty far fetched to believe that she is connected to the phone call. There is just to much that was confirmed, that the 16 year old did tell them???
     
  8. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    ITA, It won't have an affect on what was discovered at the ranch. When CPS receives a complaint, they have to investigate whether the complaint is a hoax or not. What CPS found after investigating the complaint is the only issue in court now. The only thing I see a hoax call causing is the FLDS trying to use this in their favor. Their argument will be fruitless IMO.
     
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    Blue_Dolphin308 We can't help everyone, But everyone can help some

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    Yep I agree!
     
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    If it does turn out to be this person who made the call, I wonder what her connection to the FLDS is. Maybe she met some of the followers & found out what they were doing to their children. It will be interesting to see what her background is. Now, I know this is a stretch, based on the limited information we have so far. Could she have done this in an attempt to get authorities to investigate abuse she suspected was going on? If that is the case, I can't magine how frustrating it may have been to watch Utah & Colorado sit on their hands & do nothing to protect those children.

    After hearing about the baby 'waterboarding', all I can say is Thank GOD TX moved on this call. Fake or not, whoever called is a hero to those kids.
     
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    Blue_Dolphin308 We can't help everyone, But everyone can help some

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    Updates on the Court hearing are located here. Please keep that thread to COURT PROCEEDINGS only, and this thread to anything else that is not court related.

    Thank you.
     
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    I'm certain I heard that Merrill Jessop gave the word for people to co-operate with the authorities & the young girls stated that there had been a girl whose name was Sarah. None of them knew where she was at now.

    I'm certain many stories will be hitting the airwaves as huge as this is. Like other major News you never know what to believe or what not to. In the beginning stages.
     
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    I'm bringing this link over from the previous thread. It's the newspaper article about Rozita Swinton. Rozita appears to be black, and knowing that Warren Jeffs is extremely racist, I doubt she was ever a member of the FLDS.

    When Sarah called the help line in Texas, she named Dale Barlow, and I'm wondering how Rozita would have known that name? Here's the picture of Rozita Swinton that accompanied the article.

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    Link to article:
    http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90138
     
  14. SuziQ

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    Oh definitely she was never part of FLDS. I don't think the authorities believe that either. There is enough info out there regarding the FLDS sect to be able to pull off a hoax. However, my feeling is Rozita inserted herself into the case after it broke in the news.

    ETA: So is there a 16 year old pregnant girl with broken ribs that needs to be found? Probably. However, this shows that if she exists no one has heard from her since the last call to the DV hotline in TX. That's a long time. What's happened to her?
     
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    What happened was that the women were not cooperating with CPS in putting the children on the buses and Merrill Jessop was asked to assist and he used a bullhorn to tell the women to cooperate and they instantly stopped resisting. That doesn't mean they're being told to cooperate with the authorities in any other matter.
     
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    The CPS person who was testifying yesterday said they had children with broken bones. Sarah could be one of them.
     
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    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    I hope Sarah is with CPS and safe. Because that looney toon from Co. wasted alot of resources from LE trying to track the calls down.
     
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    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    Why can the judge not order a search warrant for the girl they suspect is Sarah and have her hospital records searched?

    Also, much has been made over the fact that the girl said she went to the hospital around Easter and that is terminology that the FLDS doesn't use and they don't celebrate holidays. I know that many ER's will decorate for holidays and I wonder if perhaps that is how Sarah knew it was near Easter?
     
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    I was thinking of starting a Links Only thread so people don't need to search through all threads for links. what do people think?

    i thought something like the following (with an example of some — in this case — photographic links). there are so many links i couldn't start to find after so many days:

    Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas — LINKS ONLY, no discussion.

    Excellent photographs of the compound and the compound's people from Trent Nelson.

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2258

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2259

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2262

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2263

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2266

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2250

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2251

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2252

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2254

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2254

    http://www.trenthead.com/?p=2274
     
  20. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    What happened to the idea of having a whole separate forum for all of these different threads on the FLDS topic? Has anyone approached a moderator about forming one???:confused:
     
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