Was Burke involved?

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Was Burke involved in JB's death?

  1. Burke was involved in the death of JBR

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  2. Burke was totally uninvolved in her death

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  1. Flossie JMO

    Flossie JMO New Member

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    Hi Linda, good post. I wonder if he has any idea tho.
     
  2. AD0086

    AD0086 New Member

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    Ah. Sorry. I just wouldn't think that Burke himself would know that he was front and center of the investigation. I'm not as read up on the case and you and other posters are. Apologies. As for memories of JonBenet, I'm always kind of thinking that he's blocked her out for the most part.
     
  3. wengr

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    Exactly. If there were medical records that needed sealing, and an island of privacy that needed to be formed, it's unlikely that they could have claimed ignorance. Imo, it's much less about BR being under 10yo and to what extent they knew the law, who did they call that night and all that - and much more about the nature of what was going on and the fact that they were aware and failed to effectively protect JBR.
    And that is also exactly in part what they were indicted for.
     
  4. Flossie JMO

    Flossie JMO New Member

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    Sorry for the OT, if I missed it, my apologies, what is the small cross symbol I am noticing in Kolar's book?
     
  5. DeeDee249

    DeeDee249 Well-Known Member

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    They weren't boots. They were sneakers with a compass on the laces.
     
  6. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    You just have to keep reading... All will be revealed;)


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  7. bettybaby00

    bettybaby00 Active Member

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    Are you sure. IIRC Kolar states they were boots?
     
  8. time

    time New Member

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    What evidence is there that Burke sexually molested JonBenet?
     
  9. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    IMO someone in that house had been sexually abusing her ... He's as likely a suspect as are his parents. IMO

    There is some evidence that points to each of the Ramsey's. Johns shirt fibers in her panties, screams heard from the bathroom when Patsy had her in there, Burke discovered under the blankets with her, the books given to the parents for dealing with a troubled child.


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  10. time

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    So, basically "Burke discovered under the blankets with her"
     
  11. liz b.

    liz b. Well-Known Member

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    IDK, but would the book on dealing with a sexually aggressive child fall into this category ? Or do you reckon that JBR was sexually aggressive ? It really is a labyrinth,this case ...jmo moo
     
  12. rob

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    If BDI, I'm sure the parents had an all-niter with him, on what would happen to him if anyone found out. Also a 10-yr-old that would kill their sister (or anyone else) has some serious issues. I would like to hear from his teachers, friends of the family and such, and get a feel for who he is.
    Generally, once a nut-job, you don't just straighten up and fly right. There would be other signs, maybe just not murder.
    I'm not saying he did it, but I have always believed someone in that house did, and they all know who. There had to be a very good reason for the parents to stick together in the lie.
    All MOO.
     
  13. madeleine

    madeleine Well-Known Member

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    IIRC BR's teacher testified before the GJ...would be interesting to know what she had to say
     
  14. ozazure

    ozazure Active Member

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    It does seem amazing that he could be capable of such depravity and then be able to be a good decade into adulthood with no criminal history.

    Kolar wrote that therapy is quite successful for the issues he raised as a possibility. If a family member was sexually abusing him, I can imagine JonBenet's murder might put paid to that once and for all as the stakes got much higher. Children can have a precocious interest in sexuality, I have read that people who grow up with kinky orientations often become aware of that interest as a child - if you combined that with terrible family dynamics which appear to border on abuse, a undeveloped sense of empathy, lack of understanding permanent consequences and poor impulse control (maybe as a result of something that could be diagnosed, maybe because of parental problems, fallout from the cancer) ... maybe, with enough support, that child could be course corrected. I would imagine that if the tying up, choking etc was done by Burke and not as staging, he would probably still be that way inclined, like many consensual adults, still. So it would be a piece of the puzzle if an ex mentioned something like that.
     
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    The imprint was of the poon (logo) and is the same size on all the Hi Tec shoes.

    Btw, I think the confusion between "boots" and "shoes" comes from them being hiking shoes, which are also commonly referred to as boots.
     
  18. x_files

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    If JBR was the focal point of his jealousy and rage he may never kill again. But, I agree his ex-girlfriend(s) or boyfriend(s) would probably say he was not a normal guy.
     
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    I am about 60% of the way through Kolar's book on my kindle, and have followed off and on over the years, so my opinion might not hold too much weight here. But, I just had a random thought that if he was having behavioral issues, either due to home environment or a diagnosable condition; I wonder if that is why the dog shared residence with the neighbor? Often, someone with anger issues will take things out on a smaller victim (younger sister, smaller animal).

    I know the dog was away for the night because of a trip, but I recall reading something about the neighbor basically sharing the dog. I wonder if it was because they were worried about BR hurting the dog?

    ps. I have some personal experience with this is why I bring it up - not me, but someone I know.
     
  20. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your concerns about the dog, I wondered the same.
    Just imagine if they protected the dog and not their daughter how that would make them feel...

    I gotta stop, they don't deserve my momentary sympathy if the above was true.


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