weekend discussion: discuss the trial here #154

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by nursebeeme, Jan 9, 2013.

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  1. DebinGA

    DebinGA New Member

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    I don't want to provide her name online, but she and her husband are mentioned in Flores' police report re statements from all the witnesses he'd talked to. This young lady was separated from her husband and had provided an anonymous tip citing her ex as someone police might want to speak to concerning Travis' murder iirc.
     


  2. Nosey Parker

    Nosey Parker A Brit in Canada

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    It's not silly, nor out of the realm of possibilities when it comes to Arias and her behaviours.

    P.S. Where can I view the State's 16th rebuttal list?
     
  3. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    I apologize that I don't remember their names, but this was the woman who called in a tip to LE that she thought her BF/ex-husband (can't remember which) was acting funny after the murder and she thought he may have something to do with it. The tip never went anywhere.
     
  4. Nezumi

    Nezumi New Member

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    This came up a week or so ago. Despite her claim that she was never scheduled to go on the Cancun trip and wasn't upset when TA decided to take someone else, JA was on the initial reservation and it was later changed to Mimi. I think that fact, among other things, is what the PPL representative will testify to.
     
  5. bsk

    bsk New Member

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    Exactly, which is why I think she came across so well to the jury. She stressed "following the protocols" over and over, whether it was for things like gifts or for things like scoring and evaluating tests. Samuels kept having to dream up excuses for how he came up with 2 + 2 = 5, while DeMarte was saying if you follow the rules of math, 2 + 2 = 4.
     
  6. kscornfed

    kscornfed Active Member

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    was it her that committed suicide, or her ex-husband? i thought it was him.
     
  7. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    The jury heard she drove over to Ryans house and jumped into his bed. Then she had dinner with Travis' friends. On another note, some posters feel she may have shot Travis' first. Im sure the DT searched high and low for a ME to say just that. Im sure they could not find one.
     
  8. wasnt_me

    wasnt_me Well-Known Member

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    I'd said before that I thought the scam had to do with the BMW or the payments from U-haul---if U-haul had accepted any responsibility. My thought was that if U-haul would pay anything out if they had fault, then it would be paid to Jodi, who was the renter of the truck.

    If all those "ifs" are true, Travis could have learned about her getting more money from U-haul after he and Jodi had settled things about the BMW themselves. It could be that he thought she was scamming him because it was already the end of May, but he had no car payment for April or May. Here it was about to be June. Was she scamming him or intending to pay for the car?

    If that scenario is true, I could see him being upset that she's not paying the car, she just took off out of state and left him with the car and repairs.

    Just a theory, and I theory that might support his willingness to calm down and let her in the house if she brought the money or she'd mailed him a check a few days prior and he'd received it.
     
  9. Maryann123

    Maryann123 New Member

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    BBM
    I'd like to address that. My brother borrowed $500 from me to get his car fixed. Not 2 weeks later, he took his family on a trip to the beach. He never paid me back the $500. Yet, he's telling me his wife is at the tanning beds, (getting ready for their trip) It kinda ticks you off to know that somebody owes you money, isn't paying it back, yet they have plenty of money to blow on other things. I wanted to say to my brother....how can you afford this trip, new clothes, tanning, etc.....but you can't pay me back? She owed him for the car she destroyed, she wasn't concerned that she owed that money, and instead she was spending hand over fist. Here's what Travis was saying in a nice way.........How can you stand in front of me and talk about blowing money, when you still owe me for my car? He wasn't trying to contol her spending, he just wanted his dang money!
     
  10. Smelly Squirrel

    Smelly Squirrel Has never crawled into a Pontiac Sunfire

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    Where is everyone getting their info on who's on the witness lists?

    A TV reporter, forget which, said a PPL source told them that TA's Cancun guest was originally JA and was switched to MH.

    Edit: It was on HLN. http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/22/was-jodi-booked-cancun-trip-travis
     
  11. Arishia

    Arishia New Member

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    Ack. I have to say, ME TOO. When that question was asked and her answer was so short, as if answering a test question given by a superior, I was concerned. That people are confused as to why and or if her answer is correct is something that should be addressed. You know, I've almost lost track of why the DT thinks PTSD even matters, now that the idea that a crime scene being disordered means the crime wasn't planned was thrown out by the judge. Did they then attribute the memory loss to PTSD? Somehow, that's what I'm recalling. Given some of the previous jury questions, I had a feeling that there was or might be psych professional among them. I sure hope so, as that person can explain in deliberation. :please:
     
  12. lil_buddy

    lil_buddy Inactive

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    WOW. Awesome post. Really made me think!
     
  13. bsk

    bsk New Member

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    I always thought a possibility was that they couldn't get Travis to drop her, so they were desperately hoping they could her to drop him. Then again if that was the case, it seems they would have said so and I don't believe they have.
     
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    Yes, but that is was Travis' gun was made upafter her other stories didn't work. At the time of the murder she didn't have the story of Travis' gun. I think it's like others have said, that she took only what she brought in (including the knife). Also, I don't think the camera got there by accident. She did realize how important the camera was, that's why she took the time to delete the photos even though she was standing in a bloody bathroom with Travis' dead body in the shower, knowing time was of the essence and she had to get out of there. She wouldn't have gone through that trouble, only to forget where the camera was.
     
  15. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    KCL discussed this too. She said she supports Travis's family in seeking the Death penalty but in KCL's experience, there is torture for the victim's family members after a DP is given, because of the years and expense of appeals and the reliving of the crime every time it comes up. I believe LWOP would be best now that I have had time to think about everything involved. I haven't seen any part of JA that would care one way or the other. She doesn't feel as we do. I hope that changes.
     
  16. minor4th

    minor4th Verified Attorney

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    Why would she have to be coached to state the results are invalid? It's obvious even to non-experts. Even Samuels said he should have re-administered the test once he found out the traumatic event, upon which all other conclusions were based, was a lie.
     
  17. SusieD

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    I sure wish I had seen the question myself or it had been posted earlier. The exact question changes everything and IMO is pretty straightforward and certainly doesn't imply any belief in Jodi. The juror wanted clarification on Jodi's lies and how they affect the testing process. The baseline of the question being Jodi lied.

    That question is now a non-issue for me going forward, thank you
     
  18. Nhic

    Nhic New Member

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    Just watching day 21 when JM begins his cross-examination of JA. He asks her if she went over to TA's house after they broke up. She says yes, after he (Travis) tells her to. Then she says when she got there Travis was with a woman, JA had gone around the back of the house and peeked in. <---stalker

    Travis wouldn't have told her to come over if he was with a woman. Surely everyone on the jury caught that lie of hers?
     
  19. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    :seeya: Hello and :welcome:

    First, let me say this is a Great First Post !

    Second, I share your "concern" about a juror(s) believing Jodi's story -- now how that is possible, is beyond me ... but ya never know with jurors !

    I was very concerned with some of the jurors' questions very early on in this case -- but then I noticed a change in their questioning, particularly when the Defense put on its case.

    The juror questions for Doc Samuels and Alyce were very "telling" IMO, and it appeared to me from the jurors' questions they were NOT buying the defense's experts "opinions" and Jodi's "stories."

    This is a clear-cut case of PRE-Meditated Murder, and I hope that every one of those jurors see this because Mr. Martinez CLEARLY PROVED pre-med murder !

    The evidence is overwhelming for pre-med murder -- and there is ZERO evidence of "abuse" !

    But again, ya just never know with jurors or juries ... never know what they are thinking ...

    I will really feel very good about this jury when I hear the words :

    G U I L T Y of 1ST DEGREE PRE-MEDITATED MURDER !

    Until then ...

    :moo:
     
  20. MickyTwoShade

    MickyTwoShade New Member

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    You're right. Here's another question that may, or may not have, come from the same juror: "Do you consider Jodi stabbing, shooting & slitting TA’s throat to be a traumatic event?"

    The problem I have with PTSD is exactly what Dr. DeMarte highlighted- Arias has shown ZERO aversion to talking about Travis and talking about the murder. In fact, during the early days, she was calling Detective Flores up and pumping him for information!
     
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