Were GB4 OR SG forced/ coerced into the business?

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  1. Justiceforever

    Justiceforever New Member

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    My understanding of the word coerced is as follows..


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    coerced: past participle, past tense of*co·erce*(Verb)Verb

    * Persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats.
    * Obtain (something) by such means.

    While I believe that some of the GB4 victims and SG had disgusting excuses for men in their lives, who benefited off their occupation (definition for pimp), I just don't see. evidence that ANY of the victims were forced/coerced into the profession. JMHO

    I see it as a CHOICE they made, for their own reasons.

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  3. Aleph

    Aleph New Member

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    I don't think any of them were forced like something out of the movie "Taken." But I do think that when you cross a certain line and enter this world, it can become very shadowy. The lines get blurred. The usual protections of society are not present. So what does "choice" mean, in that context?

    We don't know what the relationships with the various boyfriends/pimps were like, or what it would be like if they wanted to stop working.

    We know that SG's boyfriend broke her jaw.

    MW's boyfriend was apparently up in Maine at nightclubs looking for women. Why go hundreds of miles away? Maybe because a woman from Maine is less street-smart, more easily intimidated.

    I don't think it's cut and dried.
     
  4. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    Akeem Cruz is sitting in a jail cell.
     
  5. Aleph

    Aleph New Member

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    And I'm all for that.

    But it is interesting to look at, in the grand scheme of things, who winds up in jail and who doesn't.
     
  6. genericwhitemale

    genericwhitemale New Member

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    I don't care what anyone says, he's directly responsible for MW's death. When her daughter is old enough to understand all this he owes her an apology. Cruz led her right to the wolf.


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  7. deedee21

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    Brewer should have been arresred. MP should have been arrested. CPH should have been hooked up to polygraph.
     
  8. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    Of course he is responsible. Hes getting out next year. Hes lucky Im not Megans mother. He has no idea what would be waiting for him if he did that to my daughter.
     
  9. deedee21

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    Is it just me or has anyone notice how uncomfortable the DA looks during any of the press conferences? I wonder why?
     
  10. deedee21

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    I wonder if he was born here. Should immigration be waiting for him with an escort to Kennedy Airport. Maybe Mockingbird has access to that information.
     
  11. deedee21

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    Anyone know where MP is from? Wasnt he arrested for importing a woman to the US for the purpose of?
     
  12. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    The United States Penitentiary (USP) Big Sandy, located in Inez, Kentucky, is a high security facility housing male inmates. An adjacent minimum security satellite prison camp houses male inmates.

    USP Big Sandy is located in eastern Kentucky approximately 133 miles from Frankfort, 140 miles from Lexington, and 321 miles from Washington, DC.

    Judicial District: Eastern Kentucky



    Name
    AKEEM CRUZ

    Release Date
    11-28-2014

    Location
    BIG SANDY USP
     
  13. Samantha Spade

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    In my opinion Cruz IS a wolf.
     
  14. genericwhitemale

    genericwhitemale New Member

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    That too.


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  15. LINative13

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    Yeah at this point in time; if that was my sister, daughter, cousin, mother, aunt, grandma......I would go rogue and take care of it myself. No doubt Kruz knows more than he is spewing. Unless he spewed it already and cops are keeping it to themselves.
     
  16. Justiceforever

    Justiceforever New Member

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    Agreed.
     
  17. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    with cruz standing two people away from me
    (only his attorney was between us)
    i pointed my finger and told the judge that "he was the last person
    to speak to megan when she was alive"

    and the judge said
    "he may not be responsible for her death
    but he did put her in harms way"

    and THAT is why the judge gave akeem an extra year in prison
    the judge asked the brooklyn da - what the STATE maximum sentence was....and she told him three years
    and THAT is why akeem got THREE years and not two (which is federal)

    cuz i pointed my finger at him...and told the judge...
    "he was the LAST person to speak to her when she was alive cuz he called her at 1:30am. and she was last seen walking away from the no tell motel at 1:30am".

    to which akeem's attorney piped up and said

    "you don't know she died that night - there is no proof".

    but i kept my mouth shut on that one.

    i had said what i wanted to say to the judge.

    the proof was on megan's cell phone that akeem called at 1:30.
    the proof was on the videotape that megan was leaving the no tell motel at 1:30am.

    i told the judge that "akeem had been absolutely NO HELP to law enforcement
    investigating this case".

    and the judge said

    "yes, I'm aware there is a serial killer out there".

    (do you have any idea how surreal it is...to be standing in front of a federal judge...
    with akeem two people away from me...and have a federal judge say out loud...

    yes...i'm aware there's a serial killer out there)

    VERY SURREAL
     
  18. giagreen

    giagreen New Member

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    Just a few random thoughts about what this thread is about.
    Whether or not if GB4 or SG were Forced or coerced into the business? No, I don't think any of them were forced into the business. Coerced or tricked....maybe? I could see how a young impressional woman could be blinded by the "glitter" so to speak.
    I was watching a documentary a while back about prostitution and some of the pimps actually spoke on the documentary. (I should go find it and post it) Some of them said that they would try and lure young women in by money and pretty much all the things that look pretty and appealing to young women. Clothes, shoes, rings, money.....all the good things you can't afford well working just a 9-5 job well paying rent and other bills.
    MB is one of the girls I could see doing it for those types of things, I think ALC sister even said that was why she started doing it. Of course we all know ALC also had a known drug problem so that could of turned into her true reason. MW obviously had a pimp who had something to do with what she was doing. SG sister said they called her diva because she acted like one. I could see how she was doing it for the finer things in life.
    I'm honestly confused on if SG boyfriend was her actual pimp or not. He just seems so mean I could picture him hurting her if she didn't come home with the money. And not only that but he broke her jaw. I was in an abusive relationship a while back for a few years. And from what I learned most the fights are over jealousy, control, and power. It doesn't seem to sit well with me that an abusive man would willing share his woman with other men. Unless if the abuser was a pimp and the abuse had nothing to actually do with the relationship. But that is all just IMO.
    The only one who I think may have been doing this just to get by and was not coerced was MBB. Seems to me she had two babies and rent to pay and was out to just pay her rent. Also, seems like MBB was the only one with out a pimp of some kind.
     
  19. genericwhitemale

    genericwhitemale New Member

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    No, he wasn't. He was a driver for an agency she worked at. That's how they met. He seems like a ******* to me.


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  20. giagreen

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    I know that. What I mean tho is could it have maybe turned into something kinda like a pimp? The dude is a ******* that's for sure. IDK maybe he just wanted his rent payed and that's why he moved shortly after SG went missing.
     
  21. Justiceforever

    Justiceforever New Member

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    I agree. There are women in this business who have ******* boyfriends who fancy themselves pimps! The woman just thinks that they are in love. Myself included at one point in my life. In my mind I wasn't being pimped (because I wasn't) It was my choice, I was in the business long before I met that loser, it was my choice to pay the bills and hit his hand. I was independant.

    It turned ugly. After I got strong enough I left. I realized that I was being used. Still... being in the business was my choice.

    The man in that type of relationship is only out to get what he can get and boost his street cred because he has an independent, loving, loyal woman who pays the bills and hits his hand out of love.

    In his ******* mind...he's a big ole pimp. SMDH! Get a job loser!
     

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