What do you believe will happen to Darlie Routier?

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What do you believe will happen to Darlie Routier

  1. She will be put to death but still claim innocence

    29.2%
  2. She will die in prison before death penality is carried out

    55.4%
  3. She will get a new trial

    10.8%
  4. She will confess to the murders after her excecution date is set

    4.6%
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  1. SeekingJana

    SeekingJana Well-Known Member

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    I believe she should have a new trial for the following reasons:
    1) Inadequate legal representation without a doubt. Her defense attorney allowed the prosecution to start the trial 6 months' from the murders, give or take a few weeks.
    Discovery and preparation by the defense should have taken well over a year.

    2) The 30,000 errors in the trial transcript with missing audio tapes to clarify what was said. Many " No" answers were changed to " Yes' and vice versa. It was said to be the most errors in a major trial in modern court reporting/ transcription. The lady doing the work believed Darlie was guilty and wanted her to die. Thus, improper and prejudicial court procedure.

    3) Conflict of interest with Darlie and defense counsel. Both Darin and Mrs. Key had prior legal business wherein they were represented by her original defense attorney. Also, because Darlie had no separate income, Darin was the guarantor of the attorney's fees. Serious and glaring reason for recusal by an already incompetent attorney.

    4) Perhaps because of #3, Darin was never investigated fully by either defense or prosecution. There are 1001 questions left unanswered in my mind about what really happened the night the boys were murdered, and Darin is not exempt from a single one. For example- Why did he go to the neighbor's house to wash his hands as his boys lay dying and his wife was screaming for help?, " Why did he go to another neighbor's house because, according to him, the wife was a nurse", thus leaving the dying boys and bleeding Darlie alone a second time? Why was he outdoors and exactly what was he doing when he found the bloody sock with the boys' blood on it? Why did he enter the living room either nude or undressed from the waist up, according to him at different times in his narrative? What were his drug issues and is that why their bills were behind? Was a toxicology screen done on both Darlie and Darin at Baylor University Dallas? What were the results of each parent's test?

    5) The investigators in the case took the 5th amendment many times under cross examination. This is something I've never heard of before. I believe Kron did as well at points.


    6) This one is the kicker for me and it's not a point I will argue with anyone regarding any case. Tom Bevel was a blood spatter " expert" who gave utterly damning testimony at Darlie's trial. He is a fraud and a charlatan, a self- made expert, a man who kept no notes, made no records or videos showing how he reached his conclusions about blood being co-mingled or, as he put it, " layered". HE could not duplicate his " laboratory testing" nor could legitimate crime scene processors trained in blood pattern analysis duplicate his results he testified to in dozens of high stakes trials. ( hint- it is not an exact science like Bevel promoted).
    Leave Darlie out of it and it's likely that innocent people have already been put to death because of Tom Bevel's lies and incompetence.

    I despise him and the other couple of fake " blood spatter experts" who have toyed with words for money and lied about peoples' lives with the heat of 1000 suns for the harm he has done to our CJ system, the science of blood spatter and DNA transfer in general, and, just as importantly, jury understanding and belief in either. Luckily, he has been totally discredited and will never help prosecutors convict YOU or ME of a crime because he was paid to say basically what the DA wanted the results to be. As far as I know, he never once skewed his results in favor of an innocent defendant ( or a guilty one).
     
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  2. Zzzz

    Zzzz Member

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    The trial WAS recorded and the transcripts were corrected from the recordings
     
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  3. OnAccountOfRabies

    OnAccountOfRabies New Member

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    I agree with you on some of these aspects, yes drug tox was done on Darlie and it came back negative, along with the negative results on her sons autopsy reports, I don't know about Darin. I didn't know he went hooley gooley running all over to the neighbors, who would even consider leaving the boys or washing their hands, I'd have blood all over me if it was my pets, dog, cats, even my tortoise trying to help them should they be injured let alone a child, of my own, OMG. Darin didn't pay the money, I am 99% certain Darlie Kee her Mother did, maybe I am wrong but there was a quote that the amount was in the upwards of 95,000.00 to the Lawyer. Tom Bevel is terrible what a weirdo, just watching him in action on those old video's exploiting the craft of Blood Splatter and his twisted mannerisms is sick. I 100% agree with you, I hope he got hi License revoked and a lean on his home, and a lawsuit, unbelievable. I think for our peace of mind, she does deserve a new trial, since Forensic Science has vastly improved, and get a reliable Blood Splatter Analyst in there to testify. I hope she gets a trial so we all know the real facts and are 100% certain that someone on Death Row deserves to be there.
     
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  4. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Innocent Bystander

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    Im not completely convinced of her guilt or innocence as the investigation and trial were both so sloppy. Seemed like it was straight out of a bad tv movie all the time. Also seems the press guided the public's views and skewed the facts. It's just a big mess.

    The sock bothers me. And if forensics used the same fingerprint brush through out the entire home I feel transfers of fibers and evidence happened.
    One more thing. There was too much speculation and not enough facts. It was just an awful investigation and trial.
     
  5. AlwaysHopeToHelp

    AlwaysHopeToHelp Verified EMT

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    I've not seen any documentaries as of yet that show any plausible other answer than she did it. Please share links of those that are in favor of her being innocent so I may view as the ones I've seen have been admittedly biased.
    As of right now, I believe there will be another year and a death date. She will attempt suicide again and fail and go to the death chamber after a lengthy interview on Dateline. My own opinion.
     
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  6. raynjuls

    raynjuls New Member

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    To characterize Doug Mulder as incompetent is ridiculous. He was one of the most successful prosecutors in Dallas County history.
     
  7. cami

    cami Keep your fork......

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    She's had more post conviction DNA testing than any other DR inmate and to date there is nothing that proves anyone else was in that house committing murder. It all points back to Darlie. They Y-STR DNA tested that bloody print and no male DNA was found.
     
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  8. cami

    cami Keep your fork......

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    Oh yeah I watched it and I can tell you that juror is hoping mad for the way she was portrayed. Over 3 hours she spoke to them and she said what they showed was all taken out of context, so they edited her to make her look bad. People who have been called for jury duty especially in a DP case, have a long questionaire to fill in plus they are Voir Dired by both defense and prosecutors so any bias showing and your out. The defense had to agree to accept this woman as a juror so Darlie got the jury they wanted. No sense crying over split milk for not getting the verdict they wanted.

    the nurses did nothing wrong. They are allowed to give their personal opinions at trial but not on their chart notes. If she had tears in her eyes, that's tearful for the chart notes.
     
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  9. raynjuls

    raynjuls New Member

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    What I always find ridiculous in reference to the silly string tape was that Darlie invited the media. She clearly knew she was being taped and was ultimately so narcissistic that she couldn't keep her mug off tv.
     
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  10. Zzzz

    Zzzz Member

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    Yes she did specifically call and invite the media, which everyone forgets. This wasn't a police surveillance video, this was a TV news video, with cameras all around, and she fully knew she was being taped. Including the sob scenes. Puts a little different spin on it, doesn't it?
     
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  11. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

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    She wanted the media there so she could show everyone how grief stricken she was. Sickening.
     

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