Funny - we're back to the Lewinsky bit - what the definition of 'sex' is - is it intercourse, or is it anything involving the genitals of either person? What's kinda funny is that I had two different interpretations on each of these times - for the Lewinsky bit - I was pretty sure that "I did not have sex" meant "I did not have intercourse" - even before the news went off on it. But when a pedophile says they had sex - I tend to assume that that may mean anything from intercourse to any number of other games that get the pervert off. I guess I think pedophile 'sex' is not really sex - after all, they're kids! Too many issues with size and maturity, not to mention that these are seriously damaged perverts we are talking about. So 'sex' being lots of things short of intercourse sounds completely right by me. Just saying, when Karr says he had sex with her, I don't see that as blowing his confession, just because the autopsy clearly shows no one had intercourse with her. I think what we've heard about with the paintbrush fits just as well into a pedophile's definition of 'having sex'.