Where Do You Think Teresa Halbach was Killed?

Discussion in 'Netflix Series: Making A Murderer' started by BigCityAccountant, Feb 26, 2016.

  1. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    This is a prime example of why a grid should be done when investigating an area such as the burn pit and the area around it.

    I find it actually quite interesting that these items were found "south of the pit".

    There is a reason that they were under a different tag number, it was a different day they were collected. #7947 was collected on the 11th of November.

    Pevytoe testifies about searching that area on the 10th/11th. http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-c...-Trial-Transcript-Day-18-2007Mar07.pdf#page=5
     


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    Yea, different day and (slightly) different location
     
  3. entrustEd

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    Thank you for posting the interrogation link! I didn't know about it. I listened to entire thing, mainly to listen for him speaking about BoD which he did.

    The circumstances of this interrogation are insane, easily bordering on the line of civil rights, not just for BD, but whoever was with him. The Avery family is first barred from their homes! They had to go somewhere. Then investigators stop them on side of a road, get them out of the car in November, interrogate for an an hour and twenty+, then impound their vehicle!? How could anyone not be completely unnerved, let alone an inexperienced kid with learning disabilities.

    I respect your opinion, I think you picked up on BD "lying", but it may NOT be due to his own guilt. It could be to cover for someone in his family, even someone from his own home, --->BoD.

    At 5:35 BoD comes up
    At 6:00 he is asked does BoD live with you, I dont hear him answer.
    At 6:50 "Did Bobby ever say anything about seeing her Monday?"
    Loooong pause, then investigator asks "No?"
    I didn't hear BD answer. (That gives me a chill)

    After 7:00 he says the scratch on his nose is from a dog, "My brother's, Bobby
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    I think BoD is the polar opposite of BD, intelligent, handsome, fit, brooding, dark eyes, like a freaking shark, a predator.

    If I met someone like BoD in passing, he would put me on high alert, because his appearance makes me not trust him.
     
  4. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    THIS post, by far, makes the most sense! I am fully agreeing with you!! My thoughts exactly!
     
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  7. YIPSISTHEMAN

    YIPSISTHEMAN New Member

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    My guess is that Avery killed her in his bedroom (strangled perhaps, maybe throat sliced... who knows). Then he wrapped her up in the sheets and comforter (I believe his bed was found with no coverings on it at all, so this is plausible) and dragged her into the garage and put a bullet or two into her "just in case."
     
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    I am a firm believer she was killed off Kuss road, thrown into the back of her RAV and buried at the quarry. No one can tell me otherwise, the evidence shows this.
     
  9. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    I have been thinking that she and the RAV4 were in the trees at Kuss Rd. for a day or two? possibly? Kuss Rd. really does seem to play a bigger part than the prosecution wanted everyone to think and know. Seeing where the scent dogs tracked, makes this theory more believable IMO
     
  10. Saul Vesalot

    Saul Vesalot Active Member

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    Yeah. Those places could have just been staging areas. The real murder scene could be 40 miles away, for all we know.

    OR those places could have been where everything went down.
    We know too much and too little simultaneously.
     
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    I think that because of all publicity from SA release from jail that it is very possible that he was framed for this crime. He was all over the news. What idiot leaves the person you killed car and key to said car on your room. He left this there even after being questioned. The DNA evidence hot him off the first time but helps convict him the second time. Hmm. I just do not see how a guy that worked so hard to be released would do something so stupid to go right back . It just does not make sense to me. But maybe he did not like being out of prison and wanted to go back?
     
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  12. proudfootz

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    BBM

    Of course, if SA did want to go back to prison, there'd be no need to go to the lengths ascribed to him by the state.
     
  13. guruagain

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    Yeah - he could have just gone out shooting "his rifle" but of course that didn't seem to bother the cops till it suited.
     
  14. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    I dont see any way that SA didn't have a major hand in this crime.. This is too much of a walks like a duck acts like a duck scenario for me. You would have to believe that someone knew she would be there murdered her with the intent of framing SA and then had access to all of the places where evidence was left with no one else knowing and SA not seeing it. I believe that SA had a part in it. I also believe there is a possibility of more people being involved but I believe SA was main contributor.
     
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  15. AutumnDawn

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    Murdered her where though? It sure wasn't in his house because the blood evidence was not found in there.
     
  16. entrustEd

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    Sounds like you just scratched the surface. BoD knew she would be there, and hated SA, and was hot for TH, and is a psycho, and the whole D family lied for BoD's whereabouts. BoD was gone from the D residence, and yet knew TH left a message on the phone, yeah he was waiting for her arrival. The RAV4 is such a frame job, easy for a mechanically minded human to see. The RAV4 key, doesn't have any TH DNA on it? Some people will never be able to see it, I understand.
     
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  17. lonewanderer

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    This is tough....

    The biggest things that make me think SA did not do it is the lack of evidence found throughout his trailer and garage, but there is one thing that really irks me besides that: the car crusher. TH's car is a MAJOR "sore thumb" and SA would know how to crush it, leaving no trace behind. Why would he just throw some trash on it and not get rid of it forever by crushing it?

    To answer the thread, I also believe that "the duo" of Scott and Bobby were somehow the ones that initially killed her. Of all the things I have read, one point really sticks out to me that has never been expanded on. If Scott had personally hunting properties, why was he in the middle of the road hunting, and this was never fully explained: why was he so desperately trying to sell a .22 rifle right around the time TH died?

    I think that Scott and Bobby either harassed and killed her together, or it was a crazy accident that they used SA to cover up with. Crazy accident being something like a stray bullet happening to kill her (I will try to dig up The Trial Went Cold episode where a woman died from what appeared to be a stray rifle shot through her trunk), accidentally running her over, etc.

    They are each other's alibis and have a pretty weak and honestly stupidly goofy alibi "derp, we waved passing each other" :rolleyes: Was GPS car records or phone records ever checked?

    There are many other holes I will expand upon as I remember.
     
  18. Jonk

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    Who? Bobby D.
    Where? Close to ST lot.
    Why? The computer porn/opportunity/ claw injuries/crushed blazer/Lied about computer location in house/cell tower's

    He could of flagged her down to take pictures between ASY and ST where he said he was going to hunt, or car trouble.

    It's hard to accept someone who spent 18 years in prison, a place people talk about crime, and the best ways to beat the system, would leave the RAV like that. This is after cleaning everything else to perfection? Plus no mixed DNA, a bullet with no bone with the victims DNA, a single key with only his DNA. LE or Bobby D ability to plant his blood. The inability for the coroner to do her job because of LE threats puts the bones into question.

    Whoever was watching all the morbid porn is way more likely to be the killer. So either BD, or ST, or both. The porn found on SA computer they reported as being normal. This was a sick crime, takes a sick person. I believe the morbid porn searches started up again after SA and Brendan where locked up.

    SA mind set was, I'm guessing more on the lines of getting paid and laid.

    Bobby D mind set is obvious from the searches on the internet. Rape, mutilation, murder.

    RH mind set was jealousy, he is more likely to have done it than SA. I just don't think he had as much opportunity as Bobby, and more importantly the mind set.
     
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    I believe she was killed either in Avery's bedroom or his garage. Avery choked her in his bedroom and then took her to the garage and shot her to make sure she was dead and not simply unconscious. If she was only unconscious then shooting her would be what killer her. If she were already dead from being strangled then she died in the bedroom.
     
  20. lonewanderer

    lonewanderer Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think someone who was being so heavily pursued as a suspect would be able to clean up all that forensic evidence without leaving a trace?

    Even more so someone as dimwitted as Stephen Avery?
     
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