"White Privilege Conference" In Colorado?

Discussion in 'Up to the Minute' started by White Rain, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. White Rain

    White Rain Active Member

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    White people, you're privileged, and guilty, guilty, guilty of oppressing disadvantaged minorities. Denial only makes things worse.
    This is the message currently emanating from the Seattle School District. Never mind that this dubious construct undercuts needed emphasis on minority student achievement.
    District officials this month are sending students from four high schools to an annual "White Privilege Conference" in Colorado. The conference is billed as an "opportunity to examine and explore difficult issues related to white privilege, white supremacy and oppression" — "a challenging, empowering and educational experience."
    The conference has little to do with mastering reading, writing, math and science; or with graduating from high school and keeping one's head above water in college. Those are the lessons high-school students should be learning, not that they will be given social promotions in the name of equity and inclusion. (more at link)
    http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2...tml/opinion/2003661182_matt11.html&frame=true


    I am so sick and tired of this "white privelege" crap. How are us whites privelged in a world today where we are constantly being asked to pay and apologize for events that happened in the past that we had absolutely NO control over?
    How are we still "oppressing disadvantaged minorities?" And why do we never hear about all the "disadvantaged" WHITE people that exist in this world?
    I am SO SO SO sick of this. Stuff like this is what keeps racism alive and strong IMO. Everytime I talk to a racist white person, and ask them why they are racist, comments like those above are the exact reason they give.
    I'm not racist, but the comments do make me angry and I wonder how long we'll have to keep paying for the past.
    And I can guarentee you my children would never attend a conference like that. The writer of this article was 100% correct when he said "The conference has little to do with mastering reading, writing, math and science; or with graduating from high school and keeping one's head above water in college. Those are the lessons high-school students should be learning, not that they will be given social promotions in the name of equity and inclusion."
     
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  3. Masterj

    Masterj Active Member

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    From the conference's website:

    "This conference is not about beating up on white folks. This conference is about critically examining the society in which we live and working to dismantle systems of power, prejudice, privilege and oppression. "

    http://www.uccs.edu/~wpc/

    I don't have a problem with this at all.
     
  4. White Rain

    White Rain Active Member

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    If it's not about "beating up on white folks" couldn't they have come up with a better title for the conference?

    What about the statement of "working to dismantle systems of prejudice?" Are there not prejudiced black people out there? Why is racism STILL being contributed mostly only to white people?
    There are alot of black people out there living in mansions in and driving brand new SUV's...are they not more priveleged than me, a regular white girl who lives in a regular sized house and drives a 12 year old car that's on it's last legs but I can't afford to get another one?
    I think this conference is directed to us whites only, when they should be working to dismantle these "systems of prejudice" against EVERYONE.
    Where and when will we see a "Black Privelege Conference?"
     
  5. Masterj

    Masterj Active Member

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    Do you even realize that black men and women make less money than white men and women? Or that black people are often pulled over when they are driving nice cars simply because they are black?

    I don't particularly care for the name of the conference but if you don't think whites are more priveleged than blacks than you must not be paying too close attention to what goes on in the world.
     
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    I don't think that statement is true all over and things like this shouldn't be generalized. I can tell you for a fact that where I come from, MEN get paid more than WOMEN regardless of color. A Black Man makes more than a White Woman. Your AGE and type of car is why you are pulled over. I have seen black workers get away with poor behavior while white workers are scrutinized. I really think that everything should be EQUAL. The color of your skin shouldn't matter. If you're speeding, you should be pulled over regardless of your age, your race, your car, etc. Everyone with the same education or experience level should make the same money. Unfortunately, black people are no longer the real oppressed minority. Whites oppressed blacks. Blacks now oppress Latinos, who oppress Mexicans... See the problem? Needless to say, its not all "whitey's" fault anymore...
     
  7. White Rain

    White Rain Active Member

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    Well hey guess what? Last year I got lost here in GA and I was pulled over simply because I was in a bad neighborhood, therefore the cops assumed I was looking for drugs.
    Things like that happen to everyone, not just black people!
    I hope I am not sounding prejudiced here, because I am NOT, but I do feel that things like racism and stereotyping are a part of every racial group, but I feel like it is mostly seen as something that us white people do to others.
    And things like them calling the conference "White Privelege" only adds more gas to the fire.
     
  8. reb

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    i'm 'offended' and 'outraged' by this. i DEMAND a public apology!! when and where can we start rioting, burning, and looting...???

    WR, you are absolutely correct.. this is the only country where whites can be 'hated on', put down and discriminated against by blacks.. harrassed, threatened, injured and even murdered (but we're not allowed to call it a 'hate crime', because only the evil whites can be guilty of hate crimes.). but somehow the poor blacks and everyone else with brown skin are sooooooo oppressed. please. i saw FAR more oppression and outright hatred in broad daylight.. discrimination, physical attacks, etc etc,, against whites, while living in a black majority city. there was the worse and the purest, most blatant RACISM i have ever seen in my life. and they would get away with it every day. but, we're not allowed to talk about this publicly in america,, only the poor, poor blacks are the innocent, oppressed victims.......... ha, yeah right. and then the media jumps on every little thing to inflame blacks even more... "tonight we're talking about racism in america"... but never, ever, EVER EVER EVER is the topic of racial hatred against whites EVER discussed!!! he double-standard in this country has gotten WAY out of hand and beyond the point of sickening. when can we start being TRULY honest here? i'm still waiting for the day.
     
  9. reb

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    masterj, it's not "simply" because they are black. first of all, a lot of that is a myth. i'm sure half the blacks who get pulled over think "oh i just got pulled over cause i'm black." but much of the time this is just another 'oppression' fantasy. as in, NO, you got pulled over because you had an expired sticker, or you have a taillight out, or because it was just your unlucky day. for your information, last time i checked, ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE get pulled over, on a regtular basis! so, the next time I get picked on by a cop, i guess i'm gonna play the "oh, i got pulled over just cause i'm a female!" card.

    second of all, there are still situations where cops might actually BE targeting them... and if so, gee, i wonder why?? if so many blacks weren't involved with drugs and crime on a regular basis, then maybe some cops wouldn't be targeting them some of the time. hmmm.. let's see,, i wonder how that homeboy with the pimped-out rig and the gold teeth & chains was able to afford that mercedes?? duhh,,, how, do you think?? by working really hard at his office job? yeah, right!! again, can we be real and honest here??? the ODDS ARE, that homeboy made his money off drugs & crime, don'tcha think? so they ODDS ARE that the cop is gonna hit paydirt by pulling homeboy over. if they would break there own stereotypes more often, then the stereotypes wouldn't be so painfully accurate.

    again, if i was a black person who fought hard for civil rights back in the 50's & 60's, i would be utterly heartbroken at what we are seeing today.
     
  10. T-Rex

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    You know, I do hear your point, and I am going off on a side tangent. But as a white girl, I know I get cut some slack. If a cop catches me doing something wrong, I can probably smile and get out of it. They're willing to hear my side of the story. At the same time, I get NO respect! People try to pull **** on me all the time. (Less so as I get older.) I have this fantasy of being like the Incredible Hulk. One minute I'm lame white girl, and you allow me into your store. But you piss me off, I turn into big, intimidating black man, and you'd BETTER open another checkout aisle!! Only in my movie version, Lame White Girl and Big Black Man actually are two separate people, forced to share one body.
     
  11. White Rain

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    I've got a lead foot, and have had enough tickets to prove it. I'm a white girl with a pretty smile and it has never ONCE gotten me out of a ticket. And believe me, I've tried.
     
  12. White Rain

    White Rain Active Member

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    When I was in 9th grade my Algebra teacher (female) called my dad in for a conference and said that a friend and I were talking too much, and when I asked her why she called us out for talking but never said one thing to a group of three black guys that not only talked alot, but loudly as well she looked directly at my father and said (and I'll put a hand on the bible to swear on this) "Well these are three BIG, BLACK guys, and I'm not about to say anything to them."

    Oh My God it must be that WHITE PRIVELEGE thing again...I'm priveleged enough not to be black and big so I can get myself noticed when I'm misbehaving in class. Oh yeah, I'm so priveleged.
     
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    DWB--Driving While Black...yes it does exist, I've seen it over and over again.

    Tell me...how do we break these painfully accurate stereotypes?? I guess it's okay for white kids to drive mercedes, and have gold teeth and chains. What... is assumed their parents paid for it because their white??? I know many with gold teeth, nice houses, and more expensive cars than mercedes...and oh wow their black and they actually work.

    I would imagine many who fought for civil rights are heartbroken....here it is 40 years later and people are still judged by the color of their skin...very sad indeed.
     
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    Wow-this thread should be titled "Crash 2"
     
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    Why do we have to assume that they were pulled over simply because they were black?
    Isn't this kind of the same assumption as saying that just because we're white we're priveleged?
     
  16. Masterj

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    Seriously.
     
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    And can you imagine a "White Entertainment Network?" Or how about "White Week" in our public schools.

    My husband went to a sporting event with our son recently. They were at the snack area waiting for their order. Part of it wasn't ready so the woman told him to wait off to the side. Finally, after a few minutes, he went to the counter and asked about his order and the woman made a loud and rude comment to him. She said all you white people are so demanding and added in a few other comments. The next day he called the front office, and told them. They about died. And they agreed, had the tables been turned and had he been black, and that comment had been made...it would have been all over the news and the NAACP would have been involved.

    I am just sick of all this. But mostly, I am sadened for my black friends. They work hard and contribute to society daily, and yet, because of the actions of these people, they are being shoved back a couple of generations. If I were a hard-working black person...I'd be pi**ed at what's going on these days.
     
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    That's it in a nutshell.

    Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King would be heartbroken if they were alive today.
     
  19. White Rain

    White Rain Active Member

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    And also I have to ask isn't this pretty much telling all the black students who will be attending the conference that no matter what they do, what college they go to, what grades they get, it's going to be harder for them to get a job than for a white person?
    What a way to promote self-confidence in our schools!
     
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    I'm white and I have been oppressed by privileged white people all my life from the snobbish girls in girl , not being hired for jobs because I didn't have certain looks, snobs in church who only want those with money to give, having my old car made fun of, etc, etc. These people don't change and teach their kids to be just like themselves. I can definitely believe that these same people still treat minorities even worse, but they are abnormal and not what most people respect.
     
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    When I was a teen I marched for equality. It caused a lot of problems in my family but I just couldn't understand why someone was kept at the back of the bus, or not allowed to vote, or live where they could afford to, just like I could. After all, we were all Americans...right? I still can't figure why we are still looking at things that happened over 100 years ago. I suspect that some of it has to do with the media and politics. Someone must be the victim. Your gov. will then come in and save you, protect you, and justify your vote. Now that I'm in my late 50s I can see that there have been improvements made in this area, not enough but it is better. When we all get over the feeling we are victims and own our society we should do better yet. On Sept 11 they were not after killing white or black people, they wanted to kill Americans.

    Equality here in the US is more about education. If you want to "move up" you need to make sure you are attending a good school. You should be making sure that your kids are attending a good school. And yet the big men in DC who can send their kids to a great school withhold vouchers so you can't have the same choices they have.

    Sorry but I just wish everyone wasn't so much in a hurry to find reasons to keep us apart in stead of seeing ways for us to work together. I'm glad to see discussions like this since the more we talk the more we can find common ground.
     

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