http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/12/showbiz/whitney-houston-death/?hpt=hp_c1
two loud thuds and and an urgent male voice heard by a record exec staying in the room above whitney just prior to arrival of emergency crews.
Two loud thuds? What would cause two loud thuds? Loud enough for the record exec in a room above could hear it If someone faints/passes out, would that be heard from a hotel room above? And why two? Did she fall twice and the second one was fatal?
Wow. So many questions.
Just speculation... someone kicking the door twice to get it open?
Someone tossing a chair or chairs in the bathroom to free her in the event of a hanging? She reportedly was found "in the tub"? (I highly doubt she did this) Remember bathrooms with hard flooring tend to echo more than carpeted
surfaces.
I don't believe a body falling/collapsing and landing would be heard by a guest on another floor... Unless it fell OFF of something... or was thrown...
She could have choked on something, but IF the bathroom door was locked needing to be kicked in, it sure sounds like (maybe) WH harmed herself.
We don't know what condition her body may have been in. Perhaps they were protecting the child. If she fell and there was blood, it could have been traumatizing for the child to see her mom that way?
Sure they were protecting BKH! Death isn't pretty. There are "things" that happen in the time after death and it is NOT pretty! That is also a bell ya can't ever unring!
Her death occurred pretty quickly and whatever happened it was FINAL. Cissy spoke to her 25-30 min prior to the 911 call and reported she seemed fine. Someone who overdosed IMO would be starting to get drowsy or confused prior to passing out and succumbing to the drug.(At least 20 min to be absorbed if taken orally, quicker if injected 2-3 min)
WH was unable to be revived. 911 responded quickly ~ I am not certain if narcan would reverse xanax I KNOW it usually works with opiates if given soon enough. The nurse in me says more and more this may NOT have been a drug overdose.
Thumps do not sounds like gun shots, and the no obvious injury to the body doesn't sound like gun fire.
As far as not letting Bobbie see her... I am thinking police protocol, the condition of the body perhaps if it had been a hanging... (this can cause awful trauma and bruising)
I believe a good #of suicide by slitting the wrists is often done in tubs. That would also cause someone to be unable to be revived with in 30 min. Hanging, A BROKEN NECK WOULD INDEED BE UNREVIVABLE... bullet wounds...Stroke, MI, aneurysm, blood clot? A ruptured hiatal hernia/peptic ulcer, aortic rupture, would cause massive internal bleeding and a sudden death (Was Whitney over 5'10" ?)
QUESTION HERE! Do EMT's have to establish a ♥ rhythm prior to transport?
Clearly their attempts to resuscitate WH were fruitless!
I am a nurse so I have never responded on a scene, but I know from personal experience EMT's seem to take SO LONG prior to transport in some emergencies and I question WTF is taking you so long?? GO GO GO now help this person... and eventually they do go. (I have never seen CPR cease and a death be called on scene)
My grandaddy has a massive heart attack EMT's attemted CPR for 10 min. He was 92 and may have been gone 30 min before my grandmother found him. He was gone. The coroner was called and arrived in short order. * but he was no superstar! He also had had a history of heart attacks.
BKH will be able to spend some time with her mother once it is deemed "appropriate" and the memory will be much sweeter!
Still wondering WHY it took so long for investigators to call the coroner. I get BHPD had to do a complete investigation. But the amount of time it took leads me to believe that whatever happened occurred in the bath/tub BUT Whitney was on the bed when EMT arrived. I take that to mean there was "evidence" in the bathroom that HAD to be photograph tagged bagged etc investigated due to the fact that her body had been moved People had to be interviewed to corroborate the story.
The person in the room above WH was even taking a nap... :what: THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY
LOUD "thump" how loud must they have been yelling?
I have heard my "upstairs" hotel guests and the ones beside me before
but to my knowledge I can not recall ever hearing a guest below me.
I also have NEVER been in a 4 or 5 star hotel- are the walls thicker???
When we do find out what happened it will be gut wrenching IMO.
The 911 call will prove to be VERY telling!
I'm rambling... ~ sorry for the long post ~
I trust Beverly Hills PD.
This is all moo and based on my limited knowledge of emergency response as a medical professional that did MEDICAL OFFICE and PHONE triage = ) :twocents:
