Who was the tipster?

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  1. Kimster

    Kimster Former Member

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  3. txsvicki

    txsvicki Active Member

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    I still think that one or both of the brothers' wives knew something and might be the tipster.
     
  4. 4Jacy

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    Well, txs, I don't know about either of them being the "tipster" but I would bet everything they knew something...(and a lot more then something)
     
  5. GhstTrkn

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    My guess would be MC since they had her at the search site tonight. Probably am wrong though :waitasec:
     
  6. rileysmom

    rileysmom In my own little world.

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    I was wondering also if it was Misti but I am also wondering of she made a deal. I wonder if the police would make a deal with her tho.
    My mind is wondering all the time in this case.
     
  7. MD MOMMY

    MD MOMMY New Member

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    Well, according to Det. Brown he is the reason they are out there searching...so I'll have to go with him since he's probably the only one who's never been in jail or is currently in jail.
     
  8. IntriguedMind

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    I think maybe LC, TC or MC. or combination if they thought they were about to be ratted on.

    I kind of feel like LC's behaviour, distancing fromTC, name change, moving, etc, that she either knew, or found out recently with TC locked up and told LE what she had found or such. or along those lines maybe and the pressure got to TC, maybe knowing TC was going to talk got Misty to talk.
     
  9. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Active Member

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    I have been thinking about your opening question Kimster and find it very interesting.

    Here are two links to both Sheriff Hardy's PC and Detective Bowlings.

    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/041510-Haleigh-Cummings-case

    http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid42757796001?bctid=78372282001

    Both of these law officials say "over the past few weeks" their investigation has led them to believe that Haleigh's case is a homicide.

    They stressed that they have done many interviews and thousands of tips.

    I saw a YouTube video of the countless binders and disc they have accumulated in their office during this investigation. It was a huge amount imo.

    So my question is was the tipster so exact in what they told LE that LE then went to Tommy and Tommy knew it was all over and he had to tell what he knew and had done? LE would never tell Tommy who let them know but Tommy would know if what they were saying was true and I think he did know and it scared the crap out of him.

    Because "over the past few weeks" Tommy had not talked to Granny Hollars yet about telling what he knew on Joe. Tommy hadn't even gotten with his lawyer yet. Tommy didn't do that until right around the time they started searching the river.

    Hardy said people are beginning to talk. So does he mean someone else besides Tommy and Misty because Bowlings says she was cooperative. Someone who just couldn't get up the nerve to say anything for over a year but decided they couldn't live with themselves any longer so they called the tip line?

    Very thought provoking imo.

    IMO
     
  10. elle1919

    elle1919 New Member

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    http://www.news4jax.com/video/23145771/index.html

    The above interview is with S Brown(the PI) who states he has been working the case for 10 months and that he solved the case the Sunday night before the Shell harbor search. I feel that he could be the tipster, he seems to think he is. The thing is, if Tommy called Gramma Flo and told her about his conversation with S Brown then she very well could have called and reported what he told her as well. I don't really know. Tommy was asking for Gramma Flo to ask Lyndsy to get his lawyer down there....So did he come clean to his lawyer after his conversation with gramma Flo? Very confusing. Here is the Art harris article that states the PI S Brown was working for Werter: http://www.artharris.com/2010/04/30/exclusive-tommy-croslin-says-he-lied-to-cops/

    snip~Only now, Tommy has provided new details that sparked the police search of the St. John’s River April 13, according to his lawyer, James Werter, who took the new information to the State Attorney after he talked to Tommy about the results of a private polygraph we reported he failed, but Werter has refused to discuss.

    Later, Tommy lead PCSD detectives along the banks with Werter and PI Steve Brown in tow, a location he was claiming he’d been to when his cousin reportedly tied Haleigh to a cinder block with a yellow rope and tossed her into the swift, murky water, teaming with crabs and alligators.~ end

    In the video however the PI said he worked for Crystal S for 10 months. Could this case be anymore confusing??

    Didn't Werter say that Tommy was the tipster? But, I have to wonder if that is sort of defense attorney speak because if Tommy were the tipster wouldn't he be the one getting the better plea deal, or at least the one that is being worked with and last night NG stated that there was no plea deal for Tommy in the works. :waitasec:
     
  11. oceanblueeyes

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    I don't think Tommy is the tipster that convinced LE that this was a homicide case and I don't even think it was Brown's evidence he turned over.

    LE seemed to know weeks before the walls came tumbling down that Haleigh was deceased.

    Now Brown may have done some investigating on his own even going to Tennessee and talked with those who may have known Joe well and been extremely close to him and they could have revealed some damaging things that paralleled the on going LE investigation. I am not sure if he is still working for Crystal now. He may be working for Werter. He says he only worked for Crystal for 10 months.

    Tommy is the one that showed LE the exact location because he was singing like a canary by then that Joe did it but the tipster imo had already told LE weeks before what went down and who was involved.

    No wonder Hardy is guarding this person's privacy and confidentiality at this time.

    IMO someone else definitely called in a viable tip weeks ago that led to the house of cards falling down.

    IMO
     
  12. lil momma

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    Maybe the tipster was the A/C guy. Maybe he over heard something while working at the mh. He has been protected by LE since day 1.

    I don't know if i even believe this, but it was a thought :)
     
  13. oceanblueeyes

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    Very interesting. This was before the drug busts and I remember getting all excited about it when I read the article then after all the arrests.....I forgot all about that statement. Wonder what he was referring to??
     
  15. Maryann123

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    What about the person that saw Misty at the Harbor with the black plastic bag? What about the person that saw the white truck/van at the harbor?
     
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    Please tell me they didn't have this information the end of December, and waited till April to check it out!
     
  17. MADJGNLAW

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    I am thinking that maybe it is Lindsey Croslin. She made that trip up to MA and after that things just started happening. The river search in April, and then her filing for divorce. She went to MA before the March 31st court date. IMO, I think she got some info out of Chelsea and Timmy, maybe wore a wire, maybe even bugged the place who knows..Maybe I am watching to much CSI. LOL, but it is plausible if you think about it.
     
  18. oceanblueeyes

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    I think they knew who and what had happened. They did not know the location where Haleigh had been put in the river.

    That came from Tommy in April.

    IMO
     
  19. oceanblueeyes

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised Madjgnlaw.

    I think it is someone very close to/in the family. Someone who wasnt there that night and wouldn't know the exact location were Haleigh was put but has been told in great detail what happened and who did it.

    Someone willing to take a poly to prove what they were told.

    IMO
     
  20. elle1919

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    I found this today, not sure if it was posted yet. http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...heriff-status-haleigh-cummings-case-unchanged

    snip~Hollars, 67, said she told Croslin Jr. she wanted the truth when he called her from jail, where the 23-year-old is being held on unrelated drug charges.

    She said he cried as he told her that Overstreet took Haleigh out of the Satsuma trailer where she lived after he was unable to find a machine gun the two men were going to steal. Overstreet put a knife to the throat of Misty Croslin, then Haleigh’s father’s girlfriend, and took Haleigh, Hollars said she was told.

    She said it was the wife of another Croslin sibling who told her where to search in the waterway and woods off County Road 309 about five miles from where Haleigh was last seen in Satsuma.

    Hollars said she called an investigator in Putnam County Sunday night with the information.~ end snip

    In regards to the statement I bolded, I wonder who Flora meant by "the wife of another Croslin sibling"? She stated Tommy told her the story about what happened to Haleigh, the wife of another Croslin sibling told her where they dumped Haleigh? Which other sibling would know? This statement has me :waitasec: Could she mean Lyndsy? Or Chelsea?
     
  21. Maven2379

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    I think it was Chelsea who told her where to search.

    From NG:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html
     

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