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What I can't get over is that they obviously were involved in this girl's death somehow and they are going to get away with it!
There is a timeline above
I have no idea of the accuracy, but its there
Hi Dushi, good to see ya! :seeya:
What I can't get over is that they obviously were involved in this girl's death somehow and they are going to get away with it!
Why don't you call the Scotland Yard with your proofs, and tell them what you know..
Are you being serious or sarcastic?
Yes...
I don't know why I torture myself with this case or the JonBenet case.
It's fruitless and frustrating.
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The only difference being, the Whites weren't part of the action...more like victims themselves.
The Tapas crew have spoken of a "pact".
:sick:
Then, there's the hint of pedophilia which has never been explained, the testimony of the Gaspars and of the social worker at the scene at PDL.
I don't see anything strange in the above statement.
She accuses Payne to be the JTs e fit. That is her own opinion.
She accuses the parents re leaving their children in the apartment. again her own opinion.
So, what is strange here?
:lol:
You're the only one using the word "strange".
:seeya:
Okay, I can actually understand why someone might report something anonymously. Even though it is of major importance to report, the chances of repercussion against you for reporting it might be so great, as you not being willing to risk outing yourself. For example: I personally have reported a nursing home to the state Department of Health- licensing board for endangering a patient. If I had been discovered, I could've been fired for doing that, even though my allegations would have carried more weight.,Yvone Martin: Witness Statement PJ Files
Processos Vol XIII
Pages 3430 - 3433 or pages 141-143
YVONE WARREN MARTIN
Places Worked:
1. Gateshead, Tyne & Wear
2. Southshields, Tyne & Wear
3. Newcastle, Tyne & Wear
4. York, North Yorkshire
5. Hull, Kingston Upon Hull
6. North Tyneside, Tyne & Wear
7. Plymouth, Devon
Witness Statement
Date: 2007/11/14
Time: 10H30
Place: DIC Portimao
Name: YVONE WARREN MARTIN
Profession: Social Services and Child Protection
She comes to the process as a witness and as she does not speak Portuguese she is accompanied by interpreter Filipa Maria da Conceição Silva who will translate all questions and answers into English.
The witness has given a previous statement to this police force regarding the facts in question. This took place on 13-06-2007 and led to the inquiry of the statement that was taken. The witness confirms the complete integrity of that statement, everything was fully reproduced for this file. The witness was also shown attached page showing the places of work where she carried out her professional activities as Social Services Manager for Child Protection, having also confirmed that these were the cities where she carried out her professional activities.
She states that in the course of her contact with Madeleine's parents, described in detail in her previous statements, Kate told her that the child had been taken by a couple. During the meeting they had, the details of which are contained in her previous statement, she did not have the opportunity to ask in depth about this question nor about any other.
With regards to the individual who was close to Madeleine's parents when she met them, and who was later identified as David Payne, she reaffirms that the same individual seems familiar, possibly as this same individual intervened in a situation related to a professional activity of the witness. She clarifies that neither on that occasion, nor now that time has passed, can she remember concretely the place or the situation in which she may have come to know David Payne, but that she continues to think that the same individual is familiar to her but cannot state the particular situation.
She adds that her hypothesis is that she may have come to know him professionally through work, potentially having been colleagues at work or have worked at the same place but she cannot be certain where she met him as she does not remember
She says that about two weeks after Madeleine's disappearance, when the police made an appeal for information about a man, carrying a child, who had been seen in the Luz zone, and whose clothing was described, she wrote an anonymous letter to the British police, telling them the following: regarding the various details she observed during her contact with the McCanns it is her opinion that they could be in some way involved in the disappearance of Madeleine.
She first found them aggressive and their reaction after she showed Madeleine's parents her credentials, also seemed strange to her. Afterwards she was informed that there were no signs of a break-in in the apartment. Knowing that they are doctors she found it absolutely abnormal that they left their children alone at home. Associating all of this with her professional experience, which tells her that in 99.99 % of missing children cases, the parents or other family members are involved, she felt it was her duty to inform the police of this.
She did this anonymously because she did not want to be bothered by the media. But she also states that according to what she remembers, when she met with Madeleine's parents, David Payne, who was with them, was wearing a dark polo shirt, blue or black coloured, cream coloured long trousers, of linen or cotton, and dark shoes (sandal/slipper type without a back buckle/catch). In her opinion, this clothing matches perfectly with the clothing the Police described the man (carrying the child) to be wearing at the time. All these coincidences made the witness think that the parents and their friends could possibly be involved in the disappearance of the child.
She declares that one of her main aims when she wrote the anonymous letter was for the British police to check the paedophile or child abusers registers and whether David Payne was on that list.
No more was said. Reads, ratifies, signs.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id236.html
Yeah kind of creepy isn't it...? Payne is the one who spoke of their "pact".
:sick:
Also kind of sad that Ms Martin felt unable to voice her concerns directly to the British police, as neither a witness nor a fellow professional. She wrote to them anonymously.
Thank you for posting the social worker's statement Sapphire. The statement, along with another that I read at the link you provided, leads me to believe that the social worker has much more information about Mr. Payne but was too afraid to say too much. I think she was hoping that her vague statement would prompt the powers-that-be to look more in-depth and discover more about him on their own without her having to spell it out for them. I think this is a possibility anyways. IMO.
I'd say woman is mental, with statement like this, I, me and myself.. attention seeker..
If someone like this comes near me in my hard times and shows me her professional certification which she carries on holiday and starts being 'clever' I'd be more than aggressive towards this type of person..
I don't see anything strange in the above statement.
She accuses Payne to be the JTs e fit. That is her own opinion.
She accuses the parents re leaving their children in the apartment. again her own opinion.
So, what is strange here?
But the McCanns did leave those children alone in the apartment. That isn't opinion. Have I missed your point with that?
What is strange to me is the fact they left infants and a pre-school-aged child alone in a foreign country in a room, a room where those children had cried their eyes out the previous night when they were left a lone. That is, imo, strange.