WI WI - Delafield, WhtMale UP7632, 17-30, MVA, car stolen in Gurnee, IL, Sep'77

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  1. victoriarobinson642

    victoriarobinson642 Well-Known Member

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    Carol Stream and Gurnee are about an hour apart (from my own experience) so it's definitely possible.
     
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  2. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Berwyn RS was graduating class of 1976. It's a common name so likely a different RS in Carol Stream.

    Berwyn RS would have began his 1st year of HS in the fall of 72 and finished in the spring of 76.
     
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    ks-ch Active Member

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    Is it the 3rd photo from the left side? R.S.?:eek:

    UPD: Oops, forget about this question, now I see what RS means.
     
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  4. ks-ch

    ks-ch Active Member

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    This one does not look like R.S. in the earlier photo, maybe this is due to his growing up or a different hairstyle but the 1st photo extremely resembles our John Doe while this one doesn't.
     
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  5. ks-ch

    ks-ch Active Member

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    What if our John Doe was R. John S.? I am just speculating because of that text "to John, love, Lauri". Can someone check if there is a living or deceased R. John S. in Berwyn in his probably 70s? I do not know how to do it..
     
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    ks-ch Active Member

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    There is Lauri L. in that yearbook of 1973 p. 154

    UPD: There are several Lauries or Lauras in that yearbook but the only Lauri with this exact spelling neighbours our R.S. in the freshmen section.
     
  7. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    I sent the ME the info and photos of Morton West RS. I will keep everyone posted.

    @coffeeandacig I think it is safe to add the overlay photo to the open thread. Can you add just that one? Thanks.
     
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  8. coffeeandacig

    coffeeandacig Well-Known Member

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    Sure...
    robert scott 1b.jpg
     
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  9. ks-ch

    ks-ch Active Member

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    Fingers crossed... I hope that we hear something meaningful soon.
     
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  10. ks-ch

    ks-ch Active Member

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    Judging from the available images and the facial structure of the deceased, can you suggest your opinion as a professional on whether it may possibly be the same person? I am so agitated because of this case. I really hope that this is a match.
     
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    coffeeandacig Well-Known Member

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    I'll give you my opinion, although I'm not a certified forensic artist.
    But, I've been creating public and private portraits of living people for over 30 years.

    Having said that... I believe @Cubby 's RS has a good chance of being our guy.
    My only wish is that I could've found pictures of RS with his ears exposed. I like to see the ears, because they can be a great identifier.

    I really hope this is a match too! Hope @Cubby gets a response soon.
     
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  12. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    :eek:I am so curious and excited right now. I can't wait to find out the result of this comparison. Yay or nay, you folks are working your buns off in an effort to ID Delafield JD. Kudos to y'all! :D;)
    @Cubby @coffeeandacig @carbuff @anyoneelseimissed :p
     
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    faithx Well-Known Member

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    According to the DNA Doe Project Facebook page, his DNA has been uploaded to GEDmatch.
     
  14. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Yes, I noticed that happened pretty quickly after we started discussing Berwyn RS. Now I'm wondering if they will find anything regarding the S family or their investigation will go in an entirely different direction.

    And on a different note, I'm perplexed why no one came forward about missing this man when the Cook County sheriff's office made that public request several years back trying to ID the remaining Gary victims. Our guy fits right into that time frame.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    ...what public request to ID, and what happened in Gary (IN I presume?)? This is all news to me.
     
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  16. victoriarobinson642

    victoriarobinson642 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to guess that cubby meant "Gacy victims", not Gary.
     
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    Your post got me to thinking. I remember in the weeks and months following the victims of JWG that LE was asking across the country to report missing young men. Which leads me to believe the family of this young man, didn't even know he was missing.
    I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't a situation of someone being in the military...like this MP, Kevin Carroll.
    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
    Category: New Jersey
    Kevin Carroll.jpg
     
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  18. Cubby

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    Yes, I meant Gacy. Sometimes I miss the dang auto correct.
     
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    Cubby fly the W!

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    If the family didn't know he was missing wouldn't something have caused them to wonder over the last 40 plus years?


    It was in 2011 that Sheriff Tom Dart made the push to get the remaining Gacy victims id'd.

    Sheriff’s Gacy Investigation Solves 1979 Cold Case

    Unless he was an orphan, how did he not
    surface beginning with the 2011 push?

    On an OT note, I have ordered three different DNA doe project shirts. The print looks washed out on the darker colors, but it looks good on the lighter colors. I'm waiting for my third now.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Gacy I know. Bu I don't remember hearing about the LE push, so maybe his family didn't either?
     
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