Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #36

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  1. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    That thought just grabs at my heart. What a horrible thing to have to do, but it might be part of the closure and healing process. I leave it to the professionals on that one. : (
     
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  2. sleuther0192837465

    sleuther0192837465 Well-Known Member

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    Had she not been missing there would have been no need for her name to be put out there. She would have been afforded that privacy.
    If she has endured SA, there should be a way for that part of the charges to be sealed, just because of the fact that she is a minor. MOO
     
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  3. DutchTreat

    DutchTreat Well-Known Member

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    I think he has both. But that's just my opinion.
     
  4. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely that is what happened...one random sighting of SG and her brother outside playing in the pool. I do think he watched them for a couple of days, but yes. RANDOMNESS, rare but happens with the demented mind of these perps.
     
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  5. Lorelei1

    Lorelei1 Well-Known Member

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    I think both theories are possible. Did I read back in October that the dad came home from work earlier than usual that night? If so, I wonder if this changed JP’s plans. Maybe it’s possible he wore a disguise and planned to tie up the mom and take JC, without having to use the gun. Maybe...
     
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    ab01 Well-Known Member

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    Has anybody been able to find a link between JTP and Barron that can be discussed here? I believe that one of LE at the press conference may have mentioned that he had a connection to Barron, but i can't remember. Or maybe i miss heard it?
     
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  7. Mercedes

    Mercedes Verified Lawyer

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    Why are Websleuthers sleuthing a family member of the accused? Isn’t that a violation of the WS rules?
     
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  8. not.a.muggle

    not.a.muggle Well-Known Member

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    RSBM

    Everyone is different. Rehashing the details can be a trigger and why talk therapy doesn't work all of the time. I didn't mention my early childhood until I was about 12 and I didn't discuss it with anyone until I was in my late 20s. As I said earlier, rapid resolution therapy (RRT) changed (saved) my life. Talking about trauma can re-victimize the person and I can't imagine doing that in court. There are other methods to work through it and get healing, such as teaching your subconscious that the trauma is in the past and isn't currently happening to you--the basis of my RRT.

    We'll have to wait and see how Jayme feels.
     
  9. Sjm_qc

    Sjm_qc Well-Known Member

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    I’m quoting/bringing forward my own post, because there’s still confusion about JP’s residence and the mortgage, which I perpetuated until @klind55 kindly did due diligence and set me straight.

    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/20190111_235426-jpg.163788/

    Patterson father paid off the mortgage. He didn’t give the house back to the bank
     
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  10. vlpate

    vlpate Sleuther with a porpoise

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    Wasn't his record reported on in the media?
     
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  11. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Sheriff F said they were trying to confirm if JTP had worked in Barron at one point besides at the Jenni O plant.
     
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  12. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Professional Pediatric Nurse

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    & I fear if he had found her, the outcome would have been awful!
    Thank God it turned out like it did!
    Moo
     
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  13. justwannahelp

    justwannahelp Well-Known Member

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    Saying she was targeted could mean many things I guess. It could be that he saw her perform at halftime on the dance team at a junior high game in his hometown then became obsessed? It could be like you said- saw her for the first time at a public place that night. I’d like LE to elaborate on this part. It makes me think of Mickey Shunick. Brandon Scott Lavergne was driving around calling escort services when he spotted Mickey on her bike, so she was his target. Wrong place wrong time. I feel like Patterson May have been similar. It couldn’t have been planned too far in advance because going to her home late at night knowing her parents are home and killing them seems impulsive. Less impulsive, though horrible as well, would have been to kidnap her while she was alone. Going in and shotgunning down her parents didn’t HAVE to happen to gain access to her. Unless she was never alone? Maybe he watched the home and decided there was never a “good” opportunity for him to take her. Maybe she was always with a parent or her Aunt. Didn’t her Aunt “babysit” her while her parents were at work? She did the carpools etc after school right? Or am I imagining that?
     
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    otto Verified Expert

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    If he had found her before she found the woman with the dog, I'm pretty sure that she would be dead and he would be on the hunt for another victim.
     
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  16. justwannahelp

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    I noticed his head was shaved in the picture with his mom bag in his mugshot which leads me to believe he always has a shaved head??

    3 months after completely shaving your hair, your hair would be longer than his hair in the mugshot, right? If so, it seems he keeps his head buzzed cut
     
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    Mercedes Verified Lawyer

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  18. Julia966

    Julia966 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know.

    If a comment about comings and goings exists (and I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it), it would not contradict the neighbor who didn't know he was there. I would, I believe, be a different neighbor.
     
  19. MorbidGateway

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    Have they said yet how he came across her in the first place? I feel like that's the most important question.
     
  20. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    I interpreted that as him meaning they are not pressuring Jayme of the assault portion while they are working on the crime in general. JMO
     
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