Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #38

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  1. doublestop

    doublestop Well-Known Member

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    This surely has been discussed but there are so many posts I can't read them all. Jayme and her mother his in the bathroom and heard the shot that killed her father. If they hadn't already called 911, they surely did then. After killing James, JP walked around the house looking for people, then took multiple tries to get into the bathroom, then found Denise and Jayme, and told Denise to hang up the phone. Denise and Jayme are presumably dead silent in the bathroom to avoid attracting his attention. How does this gel with the description we have been given of the 911 call having screams in the background, nothing understandable on the call? Wouldn't they have heard him tell her to hang up, and where were the screams in the background coming from?
     


  2. Mistermagoo

    Mistermagoo Well-Known Member

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    One thing to note here this is a high profile case if they can accomplish something like that It is big money for Them. They will be superstars unfortunately
     
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  3. Wrenny

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    It was only a couple weeks before the kidnapping. The criminal complaint said he saw her getting on the bus, on his 2nd and last day of employment at Saputo Cheese. "The defendant stated that, several days after quitting Saputo Cheese, and about one week to one and one-half weeks before he went through with his plan to kidnap J.L.C" So the day he saw her was just 2-3 weeks before the kidnapping.
     
  4. Waterdog

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    Like the 4 minutes. Reading it makes it seem longer than 4 minutes. It takes longer to make a cup of Keurig with cream and sugar.
     
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  5. Ragnarok

    Ragnarok Well-Known Member

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    Interesting thought. Would bet LE knew about the missing plates.
     
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  6. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    During initial reports, a perimeter was referenced.

    (Looking for quote)

    ETA: The quote may have been pulled, as it may have originally appeared here as search directs me to this page:
    Alleged Jayme Closs Abductor Identified As Jake Patterson By Wisconsin Police | HuffPost

    “This article has been updated with additional information from law enforcement.“
     
  7. justwannahelp

    justwannahelp Well-Known Member

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    Like Brandon S
    well at least we know he said “i did it” when they pulled him over and the interview was recorded so Judge and jury can see for themselves if it was coerced, right ??
     
  8. Inthedetails

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    Yes - that willingness to kill whoever was in the home has been disturbing me (among other things disturbing me with this case!). He didn't know if Jayme had siblings and he seemed prepared to kill even children when he stormed the house.

    He planned ahead of time to kill anyone there, take Jayme, put her in the truck of his car, and then keep her under his bed. That is one messed up soul (to put it mildly).

    jmo
     
  9. Karinna

    Karinna Well-Known Member

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    Yes right, and it was his sister's vehicle.
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    In the early morning hours of Oct. 15, Patterson drove up to the Closs family’s Barron home in his sister's maroon Ford Taurus. Jayme heard the family dog barking and saw a car coming up the driveway, so she woke her parents.
    Jake Thomas Patterson targeted Jayme Closs after seeing her board school bus, complaint says
     
  10. SeekingJana

    SeekingJana Well-Known Member

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    I'm drawing a blank without the full name. What case was " Brandon S."?
     
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  11. kkdj

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    Good questions. And where did LE find the phone? It wasn't where they said, between the parents. It was near Denise. The word help would have been very silently said when Denise called, so as not to alert the perp. I'll bet the call heard him busting the door down and some screams then. He might have motioned to her to hang it up.
     
  12. justwannahelp

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    Ohhhhhh. Yes! Duh. That’s why the dispatcher wanted to “walk through” a map with Jeanne. I remember thinking “just put the address in Wayze to get to Jayme And while you are on the way look for the snowman to find Patterson’s cabin.”
     
  13. chili367

    chili367 Well-Known Member

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    They likely tried to be quiet hoping the intruder would go away.

    Starts pounding on the door, while they realize to dial.

    Dispatch picks up after he busts in, they have a shotgun on them.

    A sequence leading to the jumbled 911 hangup is not difficult to imagine. Perhaps you are a better person and would have handled it calmly. I imagine being terrified after being woken up then hearing your husband killed and having a guy dressed in black pointing a shotgun at you is a bit stressful.
     
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  14. moonlessnight

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    awwwww, the dog climbed up in her lap :) they always know who needs love and healing.
     
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  15. Lillymac

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    Why isn't that considered a confession?
     
  16. chili367

    chili367 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you can hear a bit of this in the radio chatter from deputies during the call.
     
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    That's a good thought.
    But the officer driving to the Closs's home did say he saw a dark red Ford Taurus.
     
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  18. justwannahelp

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    Oops. Sorry. I’m posting from my phone and the cursor is wacky for some reason when I tried to edit. I can’t make it reach difft spots for editing. It’s hard to explain but it’s why some of my posts have so many errors.

    I was going to post about Brandon Scott Lavergne earlier replying to someone’s post about how these killers are all proud until they’re in prison awhile then it’s solitary confinement and suicide watch.

    Brandon Scott Lavergne killed Mickey Shunick from Lafayette, Louisiana and Lisa Pate as well
     
  19. moonlessnight

    moonlessnight Well-Known Member

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    911 did hear an "argument" and yelling which was probably him telling DC to tape JC's mouth. At that point there was probably screaming, esp when JP killed JC's mom.

     
  20. Mistermagoo

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    This us something that is rightfully going to keep coming up
     
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