Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #39

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  1. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Attempting to Keep Calm and Carry On.

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    The topic of JP being an Incel has caused some tension on Jayme's threads, possibly getting the thread shut down. We asked for a separate thread where we could discuss this. The Mods told us to open a private conversation where up to 20 people could discuss this topic.
     
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  2. Caylee Advocate

    Caylee Advocate Don't Hate Me Cause I'm Sexy

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    Blocked in with Rubbermaid’s and barbells? I’m 61 years old! I would have kicked my way out of that! Duct tape?
     
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    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Haa! Now that made me LOL. We did beat that horse to death didn't we? Hey in our defense, we had nothing man. :p
     
  5. zecats

    zecats Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps the other cars reported as BOLO where justifiable based on security footage. Perhaps also the Taurus was not in hopes that the car would be driven again and maybe eventually spotted by LE, especially if someone local. If the Taurus had been reported and as it was JP's vehicle, he might not have driven it again, He would have been warned, so to speak. . All JMO
     
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    Maybe he’s full of crap and found out jaymes in hospital during his non existent stalking and tabled his plans for 5 days...
    I would believe evidence and cell phone tracking... not the perp.. who’s a decorated marine and cheese maker..
     
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    And a drone to check things out.

    But I guess they DID hear the actual shot that killed James and the shot that was fired to open the door.
     
  8. sumzero

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    Well, that argument works both ways. What if the Challenger or the black SUV turned out to be the suspect’s car? Wasn’t LE doing the same thing, risking that the suspect wouldn’t drive the vehicle again?
     
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    I wish we could have heard the discussions from of all the officers taking that call. I imagine there was at lot of shock and disbelieve at first and then probably a race to be part of the group included in the rescue. Oh to have a scanner that night.
     
  10. MsBetsy

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    Yes, I noticed there were some questioning that again and thinking there must be more to the story or that Patterson is lying, but I think it all comes down to a simple mistake. Jmo
     
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    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Respectfully, you're 61 not 13 having just witnessed your parents shot in the head with a shotgun and kidnapped. Not the same scenario JMO
     
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    I don’t know, but I am not getting Stockholm Syndrome with Jayme at all. Not that I fully understood it, but she seems, IMO, to have had an opportunity and took it. She provided facts that helped LE catch him, fwiw and IMO.
     
  13. zecats

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    I know. I thought that as well. But....If he played loud music at the same time, Jayme might not have known he was really gone, or been unable to tell when and if he had returned. He could have been testing her initially. As I recall, he did tell her this time at least, that he was going out and would be gone for several hours. She finally took a chance and was able to bust out of there.
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    He may have messed with her, too, making her think that he was gone when he wasn't. She'd have had no way of knowing if he was really out of the house or not. Suppose he told her that he was leaving and then, 30 minutes later, she got out from under the bed and found him standing in the hall with a shotgun pointed at her? Do that a few times and it would definitely make a kid scared to come back out.

    @zecats looks like we were writing at the same time! :)
     
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    That 911 call was pure perfection!! I loved it when Henry jumped in Jaymes's lap. What a perfect scenario to end her anxiety and calm her down. That child is blessed and surrounded by angels!!
     
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    zecats Well-Known Member

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    Very true. I knew when I posted this theory, I was going round in circles. In any case, none of the cars panned out in helping recover her.
     
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  17. Stunned

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    You are apsolutely right!
     
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    Exactly. Not the same at all.
     
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    Yeah, I wasn't saying that she had Stockholm Syndrome, the escape itself kind of proves she didn't, I was saying that we don't know that he wasn't laying the groundwork for things to eventually head in that direction. I was replying to the statement of "he did nothing" to make her have SS. We don't know that yet.
     
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  20. zecats

    zecats Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that a jynx? @mtnlites Do we get to make a wish?
     
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