Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #39

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  1. Mom24

    Mom24 Well-Known Member

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    With hindsight, I wonder if there was damage to the chair from the bullet. I think someone said that it looked like the wood was splintered somewhere on it?
     
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  2. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    Well that answers that.

    (ETA: and no worthy dashcam images I suppose)
     
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  3. oviedo

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    Wow - I wonder if DC purposefully fumbled with the duct tape to get some evidence on her knowing he likely was going to kill her to take JC? Like when someone scratches to get their DNA under their fingernails? I'm sure she was incredibly frightened but if she was thinking this way - I am in awe (JMO).
     
  4. Gardener1850

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    They did show on the news that her aunt* is opening all the mail sent to the PO Box and reading everything before taking it to Jayme. So I think they are aware enough and being careful of what she sees. But I feel weird about the father of JTP sending a letter. It just doesn't feel appropriate at this point. He should say what he wants to say through the press. JMO. And maybe I'm wrong.

    ETA link: Packages start arriving offering love and support to Jayme Closs

    *Oops, link says a friend of the family who set up the PO box, not the aunt, was the one opening the packages and screening things.
     
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  5. dreamwarrior66

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    Maybe they didn't have any specific information about that car but a neighbor could've filmed it on security cam. The town all knew there was a kidnapping, but pleading/reminding neighbors to check their cameras was what led to a break in the Mollie Tibbetts case.
     
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    I haven't read anything since Monday night, but I just want to say that I can't imagine the pain and grief JP's father feels for having been in the house on multiple occasions. I know people want to blame him for things we know (and don't know) about JP's upbringing, but very few people would expect their child to do what JP did. I think it's fine to write a letter to the Closs family; it is up to them if they want to read it. He must need some way to express his feelings and I think it says a lot that he was sobbing during the court appearance on Monday.
     
  8. Sjm_qc

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    As per CC, he says he went to Haugen. Which is the town in which his mother apparently lives. There’s (a) nuance there...

    LE (DA at post-hearing press conference) has said there is more information they haven’t released yet.

    The car(s) used by JP may not even have been insured. Don’t forget there were numerous ‘clunkers’ on the property.

    Don’t ask me how I know ( ;) ) but drawing on personal experience, I’m not at all surprised that stolen plates, a plate belonging to a vehicle registered in another name, no obvious source of income/means to pay bills, etc etc “feature” in this case.
     
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  9. Skigirl

    Skigirl Verified expert in neuroscience

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    I've wondered this too. I speculate that they had an FBI profile that they did not make public, and that the profiler suggested that this was a kidnapping in which the victim would be hidden alive someplace. Just speculation, of course, but we do know that they did ask for assistance from the FBI.
     
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    The thing that gets to me the most is that it is just odd. They had no idea in the beginning that this was going to be a media blitz so what cards are they holding by not at least putting an apb out for the homicide that they drove up on. Just weird. I wonder if they even seen it at all or if it is just put in there, collaborating with the criminal report.
     
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    This is a good point, but I would think LE did as a matter of SP canvass and review any all potential security footage of the neighbors and businesses, etc.

    So I’m assuming they still didn’t see it?
     
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    I was going to go look and see what the view is from a dashcam camera - if he pulled to the side of the road would they even see it? I know my cameras have different angles - perhaps it just had lights? it was after midnight and very likely dark on that road IMO
     
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    Mercedes Verified Expert

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    Delete, already answered.

    Welcome!
     
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    None at all. Don't know if it's the way he grew up or if his parents noticed something off about him and decided to take steps to prevent him from going online and wreaking havoc. I imagine most kids want to be online nowadays, especially if they're gamers (who game with others online).
     
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  15. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    I thought that as well... Not to mention that Patterson said, DC was so scared she couldn't put the tape on Jayme. So perhaps their would have been quite a bit of tape residue on her hands from that angle too.. I do agree, she could have purposely done so.
     
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    I’m wondering if the roll of tape itself was found at the scene.
     
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    (I agree.)

    ETA: In many cases we see a lack of acknowledgement. I personally see this as responsible and empathetic.

    (I’m still behind, haven’t read the contents of the letter if it is given.)
     
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  18. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    I know he said he burned the tape used on JC, but I dont recall if he said he burned the whole roll or not. Something to look into.

    Did he leave it at the scene? Possibly...
     
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    It might have been hard since most of the homes in that area seem set back and behind thickets of trees from the road. I think ricky mentioned that given the route, he must have had to pass by downtown area businesses, I'm wondering why they didn't check cams from like the McD's or other businesses from that time? Or maybe those cams aren't pointing toward the road?
     
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