Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #40

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  1. peace9274

    peace9274 Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe she waited to escape until she heard someone (JN) talking and her dog barking... then decided to make a run for it.
     
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  2. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    No, they're not. Wisconsin has date restrictions for when you are allowed to use tire chains. They also have restrictions on the size of the chains and the kinds of vehicles that are allowed to use them. They are not "illegal", though.

    347.45  Tire equipment.

    No person may operate on a highway any motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, recreational vehicle, or mobile home having any metal tire in contact with the roadway, except that tire chains of reasonable proportions may be used when required for safety because of snow, ice or other conditions tending to cause a vehicle to skid, and except as provided in sub

    (2) No person shall operate on a highway any vehicle, including farm tractors, implements of husbandry, animal-drawn vehicles and road machinery, if such vehicle has on the periphery of any of its tires any block, stud, flange, cleat, spike or other protuberance of any material other than rubber which projects beyond the tread of the traction surface of the tire, except that:
    (a) Farm tractors, implements of husbandry, bicycles, animal-drawn vehicles, and road machinery may be operated with metal tires or tires having protuberances that will not injure the highway.
    (b) Tire chains of reasonable proportions may be used on any vehicle when required for safety because of snow, ice or other conditions tending to cause a vehicle to skid.
    347.45(2)(c)(c) A pneumatic tire may have embedded in it wire or wire coils for improving traction on ice and snow, but such tire shall be so constructed that the percentage of wire or wire coils in contact with the roadway does not exceed, after the first 1,000 miles of use or operation, 5 percent of the total tire area in contact with the roadway. During the first 1,000 miles of use or operation of any such tire the wire or wire coils in contact with the roadway shall not exceed 20 percent of the total tire area in contact with the roadway. Tires equipped with tungsten carbide studs shall be limited in usage and design as follows:
    1. The department shall, by rule, designate the times of year during which any type of tire described in this paragraph may be used.
    2. Such tires may be used only on authorized emergency vehicles, school buses, vehicles used to deliver mail and automobiles with out-of-state registrations and then only if such automobile is in the course of passing through this state for a period of not more than 30 days.

    Wisconsin Legislature: 347.45
     
  3. oviedo

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    Today show has in interview with her family on how they are helping her move forward - coming up
     
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    The way I was understanding the layout of his house, was that the bedrooms etc are on the lower floor, while the living room/kitchen is the entire upper floor. What do you think?
     
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    Aren't there small windows in the front door? I read it as he saw him through the small (main wooden door's) windows and shot through there. Sounds horrible to me still...
     
  6. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    For those interested in sending Jayme packages, letters, etc. keep in mind that she's probably getting bombarded with things now. As time goes on, however, that will slow down and eventually stop, yet the need will still exist. For many trauma victims, the world kind of moves on right about the time that you need them the most. There's a flurry of activity at the beginning, but then it gradually dissipates. <modsnipped personal anecdote>
     
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    Such a good idea. Thanks @mtnlites.
     
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  8. oviedo

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    Wow - this fits if his plan was long term IMO
     
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    I wonder how long they will keep the PO Box for us to send letters etc? Just watched the today show - not much new but the family has set up a FB page Light the way home and friends are posting videos which are making Jayme happy according to the written quote posted by her Aunt. Will add the link when they post it
     
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  11. Wrenny

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    Not exactly. Black ice can be anywhere, and it's really treacherous. The thing about bridges is they freeze first, because they don't have the warmer ground underneath that the road does. So you can be driving on a road that's just wet and get to the bridge and find it's iced over. SURPRISE!
     
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    From the CC "The defendant stated he would turn up the radio in his room to cover up any noise that J.L.C. might make."
     
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    jP won't do well in general population in prison or jail.

    He doesn't have the social skills to survive nor the emotional
    strength to withstand the treatment he'll receive.

    He will probably end up like Jeffrey Dahmer who was killed
    in prison. He just didn't fit in.
     
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    Wow, I didn’t realize it was an 8 minute walk between JN’s home and the teacher’s home. That’s a very long time to be out in the open in such terrifying circumstances.
     
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    All she can want is for the world to move on, and I'd believe this is what we want for her as well. Would that there were a way to gather blessed anonymity, solace from prying restless eyes or a cape of invisibility.

    Alas, this is not the way of things. Running shoes & poetry then, perhaps.
     
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  18. Pretty Go Pale

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    Would love to see the family back away from the media for awhile.
     
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    No, the complaint said JP told authorities he saw Jim in the big picture window -- something like that -- and yelled for him to get on the ground. JP then moved to the door, was knocking, and Jim looked through the door window and said "show me a badge," at which point he was then shot.
     
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    If there was sexual assault involved, why would they wait to charge him on that/those count(s).
     
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