Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #40

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  1. Mom24

    Mom24 Well-Known Member

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    To respond to paramedic help, given the situation paramedics would not have been brought in until the scene was cleared, it's too dangerous. The last thing they need is a shootout with a an ambulance and paramedics on scene. So they instead get the child out, to a hospital where she can be properly triaged and safely taken care of, get any potential hostages away and find the criminal.
     
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  2. sun16

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    already answered
     
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  3. BradB

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    A lot of cars past midnight?
     
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  4. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    When I heard this 911 call I was confused as to why the operator asked if JC was "running". No one has brought it up, but yet I'm still confused by why she would ask such a question. .
     
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    Cops should be trained to drive fast in all condition. I have seen police chase videos of cops driving over 100 mph on snow and ice in heavy traffic. They can do it, when they want to.
     
  6. oviedo

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    In the last thread there were detailed discussions including where the deputies were when responding to the 911 call in Douglas - they were not close and comments that show no knowledge of this information I’m just scrolling by - I feel certain all of those involved in keeping Jayme safe after she broke free are amazing IMO
     
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    I don't believe she was ever taken to the hospital. She was taken by police car to the police station, even after medical help was requested for her.
     
  8. Quill

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    No one is ever trained to drive on ice. You might be trained on how to respond to ice, and drive on snow, but ice is not something you learn to drive on.
     
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    Does it really make any sense to you that LE didn't get there as fast as they possibly could? And, they weren't driving on highways to get there, and had decisions they had to make en route about getting to Jayme AND getting to the killer perp's house before he had a chance to elude them again.
     
  10. oviedo

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    Check out the last thread one WS poster pointed out the location and miles away of the responding officers / this is a rural area
     
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  11. mtnlites

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    She was eventually taken to the hospital where she spent one night.

    Sheriff says "Jayme is the hero in this case," updates investigation

     
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  12. The Night Watchman

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    This has probably been discussed but I can't keep up. The fact that JP appeared to have no plan to keep Jayme, ie prepped room or similar, is incredibly odd. And he knew people would be coming to visit, such as his father.

    It seems that he may have never planned on keeping her beyond a day, days, weeks; which is horrifying to think about.

    He also said he would shoot at LE if he was stopped. This is pretty close to suicidal. No long term plan there either. Could the most important part of his "fantasy" be to kill people in cold blood? Like a video game.

    And I wonder if Jayme somehow switched something in JP that made him unable to take further action. Executing people he never met before would be easier than killing a child that you were with for 88 days. This theory assumes that he had a shred of humanity, which might be a reach.
     
  13. Quill

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    She absolutely was taken to the hospital where she spent the night before being reunited with her family the following day.

    "Jayme Closs has been reunited with her aunt, Jennifer Naiberg Smith, today at the hospital, according to Barron County Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald."

    Jayme Closs reunited at hospital with aunt
     
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    Missing Wisconsin teen Jayme Closs' family celebrates her return

    "Jayme was taken to a hospital Thursday night and held overnight for observation."
     
  15. JaneEyre

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    No amount of training can keep anyone's car from flying off ice. No! 4 WD also does not allow one to drive on ice. Look, I've been driving on ice all week. This is just a nonsense statement.
     
  16. InquisitiveMindedJen

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    Nobody is actually able to 'drive' on ice. If you are able to, then great for you.

    These Wisconsin police had other things on their mind, such as what to expect when they got to the destination. Everything happens on a scale of seconds, not minutes or hours.
     
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    Perhaps she was trying to find out if she was being chased which would have made the situation much more urgent.
     
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    Father of Jayme Closs' Alleged Kidnapper Apologizes to Her Family in Letter
    The father of the man accused of kidnapping 13-year-old Jayme Closs apologized to her family after his son appeared in court via video conference Monday.

    PP, the father of 21-year-old suspect Jake Patterson, sent a handwritten note to Jayme's family expressing sorrow and shame at the murder of her parents and her kidnapping.

    "He wanted my family to know that he was sorry and he was crying," Jayme's cousin JA told Inside Edition.

    Arnold added that she knows the Patterson family is coping with their own grief. In court Monday, Patrick wept openly and left walking hand-in-hand with his other son, Erik Patterson.

    "I feel sorry for them," she said. "My heart goes out to them because when these things happen, families don't always know. I don't hold any hard feelings against them. I know they're having their own kind of struggle."
     
  19. sumzero

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    Fitzgerald does not have a good answer, IMO. I’m guessing that once they obtained statements from JP and JC, they had an UH-OH! moment. Suddenly, they realized they had in their possession that night a fairly detailed description of the Taurus — and did nothing with it. Just admit it, would be my advice. Everyone makes mistakes. :\
     
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  20. MyBelle

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    iirc, JC was taken to the hospital and kept overnight.
     
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