Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by JerseyGirl, Oct 15, 2018.
No worries they both fit in the same class - Garbage/Trash.
I am miffed at everyone who posts about Jayme Closs and possible SA. Stating, I hope they don't release this info, Jayme shouldn't have to go through this etc This is not directed at anyone in particular and I respectfully say this. You are doing the very thing you say you hope doesn't happen. Out of respect for Jayme SA should not be discussed here. The mods have requested this also.
Shame? What has Jayme got to be ashamed of?
If it hadn't been Jayme it just would have been someone else. I think he had thought about abducting a girl for quite some time. He just hadn't decided who until he saw Jayme that day.
What happened to Jayme was horrific not shameful.
Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for posting your thoughts.
I get how you feel completely. I'm mad as heck too and not feeling very nice toward JP either.
I'm torn between whether he is a suicide risk or not in jail. I can definitely see him ending it instead of trying to conform to prison life, I don't think we have information about him yet. There are such conflicting stories in the media. I most want to know if the story about 'loving his dog Rosie (?) is true or not.
Who cares if the perp loved his dog? Not meaning to be rude but really what if he did? He has admitted to killing 2 innocent people.
Are you law enforcement? This is typical practice when EMS safety is in question. There is no way they would put her in an ambulance with JP on the loose in the area. It would be a dereliction of duty to put JC and EMS safety in peril that way.
There was an instance a bunch of years ago where a man was shot on his front porch, shooter still in the area and not secured. EMS was there, on site, however my husband - a patrol officer at the time was the one who retrieved the injured man and transported him until it was safe to turn him over. He needed medical attention that my husband could not provide but still they did not send EMS into that situation. It would have been no help to the victim.
Oops, just noticed the autocorrect! Wish I could change my first word to oh (as intended). I’d also like to add that I’m so impressed with JC’s close, loving family. None of us have likely ever had to go through such an experience. I’m sure they’re receiving advice from professionals and the decisions they have to make each day are difficult and are being carefully chosen to protect JC and help her heal. JMO
Yes he would of targeted someone else eventually if not Jayme.
I wonder if he will ever talk - i.e. when did he begin thinking abducting a girl was an option he could pursue? IMO
She may not realize it yet but on top of saving herself, she probably saved possibly hundreds of future victims of his. At 21, he could have a lot of years/decades ahead of him of doing such things and refining as he went. From what we allegedly know, LE had no clue about him, his father was in the house, etc. and did not realize, he would have gotten away with it but for her escaping.
From what we can see, all of the stars in the northwoods of WI aligned that night (or early evening)--not only did she get away but they also apprehended him and thankfully Henry wanted a walk, JN decided to go to her cabin, and more.
No one can ever bring her parents back or erase what happened to her but a great ending to a total tragedy where some cases, sadly, do not result in the missing coming home.
Now bring on the justice.
I guess another way to look at this shame idea is this. If you are a 5 foot 6 inch 130 lb. man and a 6 foot 2 inch 200 lb. man beats the daylights out of you in a parking lot, is that shameful? The variable here is sex and man o man we need to haul ourselves out of the dark ages. My opinion only !!!
Absolutely horrific, but if we read about common feeling victims tend to have, shame is one. We understand that the victim has no reason to be ashamed, but the human psyche can be bewildering.
If I had to guess, there is much more than is in the complaint. If I also had to guess, now that he has lawyers, they will advise him not to talk and that will be the end of it UNLESS he is one of those that has the narcissistic (is that the right term?) need to have that attention and ignores advise of counsel.
Someone awhile back brought up BTK and I will never forget him on TV, he made me ill, acting as if he was giving details, etc. for closure for families when he was eating every bit of it up inside--one could just tell. He went on forever. I was mad at the networks for carrying it and yet understood of course they would cover it and it disgusted me to watch him as well. There is a reason in some cases they include the fact they cannot every publish anything, or have attention from movie makers, etc., an online presence and more. I think two that were given those kinds of rules were him and Scott Peterson... Good move to add those to the sentences of those two. In my opinion anyhow.
Oh my gosh, this never occurred to me. But you are exactly correct that in wearing his shoes, her DNA and his DNA will be in those shoes.
And how smart she was also to put them on the wrong feet so that they would fit better. Just how unbelievably smart she was.
I do agree with others, she should get the $50,000 and I think that will happen. Moo
girlhasnoname Sorry for my comment. It would indeed be interesting if he is capable of loving his dog while committing such a crime.
I understand that, but in the mind of a 13 year old girl and her 13 year old friends - with everyone looking at you and knowing - she will feel shame. Everyone will know. Only therapy can take that shame away. Like walking into school naked - IMO. She should not have to be ashamed - she did nothing wrong - and she'll get there eventually. Human beings feel shame about sexual assault. Especially at a young age when you have no real world sexual experience to compare your situation to. It will be easier for her to process her trauma if the whole world doesn't know the nitty gritty details of her assault.