Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #40

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  1. zecats

    zecats Well-Known Member

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    Me too. I can picture him boasting to her about the crime, how he now had her and that she would never get away. Telling her who he was and what he planned. He thought he was that good at pulling off this disaster. Chilling.

    ETA. Changed beginning as I initially read post I quoted as "I can't picture him." Eyes starting to blur.
     
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  2. kc1023

    kc1023 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, thank you. :)
     
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  3. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    Me too. After all, they were alone for a very long time. And he certainly didn't fall dumb whenever he was around LE.
     
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    -People may act differently shortly after committing a violent act. You may have observed such behaviors and not realized it at the time. We are asking you to think back to earlier this week and let us know if you’ve noticed any of the following:

    Changes in Routine:
    They will miss work. The absence will be sudden and unplanned. They may either be a “no show” or they may offer a reasonable excuse such as illness, death in the family, car trouble, etc.

    • They may miss scheduled appointments. These appointments or commitments may include medical appointments, a regular responsibility to a friend or family member, like caring for an elderly
      relative.
    • They may suddenly leave town, either with no explanation or with some reasonable explanation.

    The Latest: Barron County Sheriff pleads with public to look for suspicious actions
     
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  5. Caylee Advocate

    Caylee Advocate SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE

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    Rubiconbob Well-Known Member

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    Well said, was hoping lights were off so there was less of a mental imprint , although that might not make much difference..

    her aunt / uncles seem similar to parents .. that has to help in someway.
     
  7. SeekingJana

    SeekingJana May I be the person my dogs think I am! :)

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    Do you think the FBI, who had boots on ground for some time, and also advised them after they'd gone to another crime scene, had a good profiler who determined this was likely the work of a sadistic stranger ASPD violent person?
    If so, do you think any of the pressers were designed to appeal directly to him, or help prevent Jayme's demise?
     
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  8. Caylee Advocate

    Caylee Advocate SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE

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  9. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Tough to say.

    In his 48 Hours interview, the sheriff said that they spent quite a bit of time focusing on co workers at the Jennie O’s plant.

    As they were being aided by the FBI, it’s likely that their profile played into this.

    That would indicate that they were focused on someone with a grievance against the Closs family, and not a stranger.

    Without a clear motive, it is hard to generate a profile. It’s made even harder by the unprecedented nature of this crime.

    I definitely share your interest as to what profilers did think about this, but it’s impossible to say for sure what their assessment was.
     
  10. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Let me be clear, I did not say, and there was no reference to JP's mother acting as his mail guard. I believe LE made the address comment in reference to how if given his name, their database would not have led them to the cabin address. BBM

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    MOO
     
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    Not trying to be dramatic, but Barron's LE knew the depth of deep ish they were stepping in when they arrived, and made appropriate measures to receive the assistance required for the most positive outcome they could anticipate.

    We all want desperately to see a quicker recovery and closure, but they played the long game. What piques my curiosity is how much of this was cooperation between agencies.
     
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    The fact that she gave his full name with middle name made me think she saw it printed on some mail or somewhere.
     
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    Knowing what we know now, I understand there confusion, it would look like someone was pissed off at James and Denise...

    with close to zero contact with anyone or on a cell phone ... if FBI given a note from perp that said I’m anti social loner that did this to get jayme.... still would be hard to quickly figure out JTP. Jayme was missing for 88 days, JTP brother, mom, sister, ex girlfriend or grandparents all thought nothing. Even day she was found they were likely excited and glad they found the girl and the perp.
     
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    SeekingJana May I be the person my dogs think I am! :)

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    replied to wrong post- that silly dog on my lap. :)
     
  15. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    I don't know but I envision JP in full on "commando mode"
    ordering Jayme to address him as J_ T_ P. I also recall that JC relayed to 911 dispatcher that he'd been in the military. MOO
     
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    Yup. First as JP was approaching he saw James in the picture window, shining a flashlight out. Then he banged on the door and saw James at the window on the door. It confused me, because I remembered the blinds as being mostly shut, on the picture window. There were a couple comments here that JP's confession sounded too rehearsed, like a combination of things he got from the media and things he might have learned from someone else. I really don't think so, I think he's the bad guy. But, the blinds threw me off. That's why I went back and looked at the pictures. Like I said, the right blind is the same in all pictures, but the left is sometimes partly opened, sometimes mostly closed, and often hidden by a tree. Just wondering whether anyone can tell what the position was nearest after the time of the crime, before investigators may have changed it? It's probably nothing. Probably it was open, and the tree positioning was out of consideration by the media, and then the investigators changed it for privacy when they could. Just wondered if anyone can confirm that. It was the first I realized that the position of any of the blinds changed.
     
  17. Lillymac

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    Someone mentioned he had applied for a job the day Jayme was found. Is there a link for that or any info on it? tia
     
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  18. Wrenny

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    Indeed. It would be nice to see a younger picture of the family.
     
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    I think you're right. The level of rage you had to be experiencing to shoot someone right in the face would typically tell LE and FBI that this was personal vendetta against the Closs parents. I really think they thought they'd find the killer in plain sight - ex boyfriend, work subordinate given a review... The murders were really over the top.

    This story is giving me nightmares. It breaks my heart when I wake up and realize it's just a dream. Jayme can't. I wish we could just erase her memory of all of this.
     
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