Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #41

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  1. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    I think we are all thinking what we would do if we hear someone at our door now.
     
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  2. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Then Denise would have died in her car.

    They were not getting away. This is completely unproductive.
     
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    moonlessnight Well-Known Member

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    exactly. not second guessing what happened that night, as it was what most people would do. but now, with this case, we might do something different.

     
  4. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    I forgot about that... He did say that didn't he? LOL... The guy is just an absolute ridiculous nut. I dont think he is smart by any stretch of the imagination. I think he planned and prepared for this crime by what he learned through playing video games.
     
  5. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    Ugh. Even the most noble of a dream .

    I don’t know how Jayme, that precious darling will ever recover.

    All of the triggers people are bringing up. Food. Never thought about that.

    Torture is too good for him.
     
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  6. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    Not really... if he was busy storming/searching the house: they could have been driving away.
     
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  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I don’t believe him because he seems truthful, I believe him because what he says jibes with the known facts here.

    This all rings true for me.
     
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    I think so, too. They can't stop everyone, especially b/c they were heading to a crime scene at full speed. This car looked an ordinary citizen, no reason to suspect. As to the other cars, I don't know what happened, but maybe something a simple as person w/expired license or a warrant tried to avoid the police.
     
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    And seriously, a healthy therapy fund is also a good idea.
     
  10. moonlessnight

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    I agree he is lying about a lot of things. The whole "I knew she was the girl I was going to take" statement is bizarre. it insinuates that he was actively looking for a victim, almost as if he thought LE knew he had been looking for a victim. I also don't believe that is how he found her.

    the whole thing about him being prepared to shoot cops is a lie. He's a p*ssy.

    he is also lying about no blood on his clothes.

    I think he has watched a lot of TV and movies, and played a lot of video games. everything about him is disjointed/fragmented with many incongruous pieces. I actually wonder if he has more psychosis/disorganization than ASPD.

     
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    They are classy bad a**** IMO. Especially the trio of aunts. I feel like those 3 could shield JC from almost anything.
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    That was a tiny house.

    These people went from peacefully sleeping in their beds, to a nightmare straight out of a horror movie.

    A man with a gun was chasing them, and I don’t care if they had cheetah speed and a previously planned escape route.

    They were not running to a car, starting it, opening the garage, and speeding into the night.

    We don’t even know if the layout of the house allowed for this in the first place.

    That is beyond unrealistic.
     
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  13. The Dude

    The Dude Tying the room together

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    She will. Just like Elizabeth Smart did. And Jaycee Dugard. And Katie Beers. It won't be easy, but she will not only survive, but thrive. I have no doubt about that.
     
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    jinx. I just wrote the same thing about video games. I agree with your synopsis.

     
  15. moonlessnight

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    the responding officer could have called it in and asked for follow up from a back up car. They knew the 911 call was suspect, without knowing anything about the situation. Seems prudent to call it in and get some follow up.

     
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  16. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    Who said anything about opening the garage door? That's how fast I would have been moving after seeing someone shot and killed..
     
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    Maybe that is how he was treated. The screaming and who knows what else. It scared him so why not think it would work on her.

    And no, I do not know that is how he was treated
     
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    That's my problem with his confession. I don't think we have all the facts. He seems to be truthful about what happened at the abduction site. There is at least one discrepancy about what occurred in the cabin: he said he struck the wall, she said he struck her back with a hard instrument. As for prior to the abduction, all we have is his word. He admits to approaching JLC's home 3 times until the right opportunity arose (look how smart I am!), it follows he would stalked other girls that ended up not meeting his criteria - big family, bunch of huge dogs, burglary alarm, some behavior of hers he didn't like.

    While we are at it - we don't know this was his first time. Yet given the poor planning at the cabin, I think so.
     
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  19. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Your scenario might work in the movies, but not in real life.

    If the layout of the house even allowed for it, Denise and Jayme were not getting anywhere near a car.

    That’s assuming that they were able to think clearly in the first place.

    I truly do not understand this line of analysis.

    These people are dead, and their actions make sense. If you believe that you could have survived this, then that’s fine.

    I believe you are dead wrong.
     
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  20. SeekingJana

    SeekingJana May I be the person my dogs think I am! :)

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    I really don't know how she, personally, feels about the place that was home for all her life, then was a place of such crime and destruction.
    If it's Jayme's decision to make, then it's up to her and that's really all I know. I don't think she would choose burning it down vs. orderly demolition by a demolition crew, though.
    JMO of course.
     
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