Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #41

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  1. Cher352

    Cher352 Well-Known Member

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    In some areas fire departments will do it for you for training purposes. You can even get a tax write-off as a donation to charity. Of course the IRS has been trying to stop this deduction.
     


  2. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    I thought JP's dad lived there until JP went of to the Marines and then he relocated to be closer to his job? Maybe I misunderstood?
     
  3. Rubiconbob

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    Thanks for sharing your info... I’m guessing there’s a fitness ramp up... it’s not just 10 mph on treadmill day 1. But after 4 weeks you’d think cardio would be up to speed .. or at minimum 3/4 weeks in it’s clear fitness wise you can make it???
     
  4. BlinkOfAnI

    BlinkOfAnI Well-Known Member

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    Good point. And some Mental health issues don't even start showing until later in life like schizophrenia.
     
  5. JaneEyre

    JaneEyre Kindness matters - always

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    If it were as easy as “choosing” to get well, people would not struggle with it. I’m wondering on what planet it’s ok for anyone to suggest that recovery from trauma is a choice, that mental health is simply a choice. It’s not. I wish it was.
     
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  6. StarEyes

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    I agree with you. JC was shot behind the door. Even if JC had a gun, JP would’ve very likely killed him exactly the same. At that point, it was seconds to him being in the house. I feel like they just had no warning, no time to react other than as they did. Your brain would go into straight panic mode after hearing the first shot. These are things we can never know how we’d react unless placed in the exact same circumstances. It’s completely tragic and emotional, jmo.
     
  7. girlhasnoname

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    *^THIS^^
     
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  8. BlinkOfAnI

    BlinkOfAnI Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention the mental stress thats purposely invoked and for good reason.
     
  9. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah, it’s incredibly regimented.

    First, you have to take a fitness test so you can even go to boot camp. You have to meet a minimum level.

    Once you’re there, it’s a slow build up, so even if you’re not entirely ready fitness wise, you will get there.

    I think his issues were mental health ones, and not physical. Here’s the thing though, you don’t go from training to being booted out.

    You go from training, to a holding platoon, to out.

    The fact that he was only there for five weeks, means that he certainly would have spent more time in one of those holding platoons, as opposed to a training one.

    I think that he probably only lasted a week or two, before he was dropped from training.
     
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  10. Rubiconbob

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    I’ve seen both multiple times ... below is where I saw one of the quotes... it states they were left there... then foster care.. if both parents bail on kids at that age... that’s extremely sad.... especially after divorce...
    if you can confirm what really happened let us know ...

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    Oxygen article

    She and Patterson’s father divorced in 2008, according to online court records. Neighbor Daphne Ronning told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the parents moved away but that Patterson and his older brother, Erik, continued to stay in the cabin where he allegedly held Closs captive. The brothers then reportedly went into foster care for some time.
     
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    Some people also yell at the screen in movie theaters. Like that might help :)
     
  12. MsBetsy

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    Yes, that one can be really late. People can work for years and be really successful and then start having symptoms. It's scary. Imo
     
  13. Caylee Advocate

    Caylee Advocate Don't Hate Me Cause I'm Sexy

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    Some just like having their butt spanked repeatedly it seems. I am somewhat surprised it went on and on. Ignore hasn't seemed to work lately. Sigh :confused:o_O
     
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  14. girlhasnoname

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    Let's ask @PommyMommy she'll know for sure and I'll search for an article or something I saw that mentioned he was there. I truly don't know RB.
     
  15. Lillymac

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    Well since I live on this planet...I'd have to say this one. I didn't say your feelings or stress ever go away. I meant how you deal with it is your choice. It is my choice every moment of every day how I deal with my private hell. I do that the best I can. My choice is not to give up and strive to do that. That is simply what I meant.
     
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    I'm sorry you had to experience that, but am thrilled that you found your way to a good PTSD Specialist. Best of continued luck to you!
     
  17. StarEyes

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    I didn’t even think about that! You’re right. I think that would be a good option for the family to consider. JMO
     
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    Good idea, I am a little confused
     
  19. Rosiebones

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    This discussion of whether LE should have stopped the red Tauras only works because there was one car that pulled over when they went past. What should the protocol have been if there had been three cars or seven cars. Never mind that if they had stopped the car and spent 10 minutes there they would not have been available as back up to the other first responders at the scene of a crime. They would not have had probable cause to search the trunk and they would have probably been engaged in a shoot out.
     
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    I’m keeping my mind open on the foster care issue. As far as I can see, it was only mentioned once, by one neighbor. (And then quoted all over the place.) For all I know, the neighbor got the Patterson family mixed up with someone else.

    Have I missed anywhere where “went into foster care” is well documented?
     
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