Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #42

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  1. Psychofcrime

    Psychofcrime Well-Known Member

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    AND.... His father visited once a week. If a radio is blasting in your son's bedroom every time you visit, why wouldn't that seem weird? The house belonged to him so on his visits why wouldn't he take a look around the property? Be interested in how it's holding up, etc. The whole thing stinks.
     


  2. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    I see this differently.

    He lived the way he did, because he was a sick sociopath. His living situation and job history, were a direct reflection of himself.

    I have no sympathy for him.

    That went out the door when he made the conscious choice to murder two people, and kidnap an innocent child.

    I hope his days are long, and his nights longer. I hope the decades pass slow.

    I hope the rest of his life is spent in misery.
     
  3. Ragnarok

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    Especially if the volume wasn't turned up prior to the October crime date. LE said to look for changes in behavior.
     
  4. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Three months after graduating, Patterson headed for the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego. But he returned to Gordon after five weeks, a washout as a Marine Corps private.

    It was a bitter experience, Patterson’s grandfather said.

    “It was profoundly disappointing when he didn’t make it in the Marines,” Moyer said. “He had health issues. He wasn’t able to hold up to the regimen.”


    Asked what the health issues were, Moyer replied, “It was internal.
    How did Jake Patterson's life lead to Jayme Closs?

    I believe GF was trying to say JP not mentally competent -- JP didn't/couldn't hold up. MOO
     
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  5. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Yeah. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

    That’s his father’s house. You’d think that he’d take an interest in it.

    If he was snooping around to the point that JP speculated that his father could have discovered the shotgun in the trunk of a car, then you’d think he was atleast taking a cursory look around the house itself.

    Weird.
     
  6. Mom24

    Mom24 Well-Known Member

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    Let's just say I'll sleep a lot better when they lock him up and throw away the key.
     
  7. Jabarn

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    It’s not really sympathy toward him I am seeking here, but an understanding of what made him do such a horrible thing. I know more will come out in the days and years to come. Did he want a companion? I know SA talk is not allowed here, and to be honest, I am not convinced that was the motive anyway.

    What is the difference in sympathy and empathy? Just kidding... that would cause so many OT comments, Trisha and her staff would have to clean up another 65 posts. :(
     
  8. stephlovescheese

    stephlovescheese Well-Known Member

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    Well said @MassGuy .
     
  9. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    That’s absolutely true, it is important to understand what makes these people the way they are.

    Trying to understand them, doesn’t mean that we condone their actions.

    Regardless of this though, he made the decision to kill. He wasn’t insane, he knew what he was doing.

    That’s why I feel nothing but hate towards him.

    As for motive, I’m sticking with what I believed this to be when it first happened. A sexually motivated abduction.

    I hope he just wanted a “companion,” but that’s doubtful.
     
  10. Mom24

    Mom24 Well-Known Member

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    It's odd that his father didn't walk through the home, especially given the state of disrepair it was in. Didn't it look like they were doing work on it? I'm sure they weren't planning on leaving it like that, why weren't they working on it? And why did he come and visit every weekend?
     
  11. Jabarn

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    It’s all so weird, looking on Jake’s life living in the house that looks more like he was spending the night at his parents’s home. But he was the sole occupier living there. Why did his dad even bother to check in at all? There has to be a reason for that.
     
  12. Bravo

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    The Father's visits may just be a cursory look around and dropping off $ groceries etc. His Dad may be used to strange and unusual when it came to his Son
     
  13. Andreee

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    I agree, my sympathies lie with the real victims of his
     
  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Ha! “Strange and unusual” wasn’t so “strange and unusual.”

    If he was acting like a normal human being, now that would set off some alarm bells.

    I can’t wait to learn more about this living situation.
     
  15. girlhasnoname

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    Id also bet jake doesn’t have Venmo, PayPal, check account or credit card.

    Maybe dad worked in all cash business and he didn’t believe in checking account either.
    Who knows.......
     
  17. kkdj

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    I wonder what JP would do if his dad had discovered Jayme there.
    Would he have kept his dad at the house, never allowing him to report it?
    Would he have killed him?
     
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    I wonder if his father or mother are in contact with him at all or just cut ties completely. Horrible, horrible thing their son did but it is their son.
     
  19. Seenit

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    Personally, I am not surprised that he did not act impulsively. I think he wanted to play the mastermind and pull off the perfect crime. He had plenty of time to plan.

    I think he was somewhat motivated by becoming famous through his crime...and, unfortunately, he has succeeded there. He was an otherwise nondescript person that made no mark on anyone's memory...but this crime and notoriety has made him the focus of attention. Exactly what he wanted.
     
  20. Jabarn

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    The way the ceiling looks unfinished in the pics (no one got around to correcting the problem) and the older household decorations and furniture... the old cars and the relic snow mobile, all of it are like time stopped. Their kid didn’t. I do wonder if checking in felt obligatory to dad. That’s only my opinion.

    I would like to know if the Christmas decorations were put out for Christmas 2018, or had been there for a long time. It just doesn’t seem like something JP would do, but maybe he did.
     
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