Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #43

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Deputies responded to a residence on Highway 8 east of Barron that was asking for help shortly before 1 a.m. When deputies arrived, they found two deceased adults. Jayme Closs, 13, is considered "missing and endangered." Jayme is described as 5' tall, 100 pounds and has green eyes and blond or strawberry blond hair.

2 dead, 13-year-old girl missing in Barron County, Wisconsin

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ABSOLUTELY NO MORE OFF TOPIC STORIES! THIS THREAD IS ABOUT JAYME. FEEL FREE TO TAKE YOUR OFF TOPIC STORY TO A PRIVATE CONVERSATION. IF ANYONE POSTS THEIR PERSONAL OFF TOPIC STORY WILL RECEIVE AN AUTOMATIC TIMEOUT.
 
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Charges: Suspect taped Jayme's hands, ankles, dragged her to car
A jailed Patterson appeared Monday afternoon via video hookup in Barron County District Court, where he heard the charges against him in connection with the deaths of James and Denise Closs and the abduction of Jayme, who sought help along a road near Gordon upon escape.

Judge James Babler agreed with the prosecution and set bail at $5 million for Patterson, pointing out the seriousness of the charges, the prospect of spending life in prison if convicted and the great lengths the defendant went to conceal the crimes while a fugitive. The defense requested an unspecified lesser amount.

Decked in full jail orange, Patterson sat at a table with a member of his defense team to his right and the charging document in front of him over the 9-minute hearing and answered every question from the judge calmly and with full understanding. He sat with his hands folded at his waist, adjusting his glasses and rubbing his face.

Prosecutors also said Monday afternoon that additional charges based on unspecified allegations could be coming out of Douglas County, where the Patterson property is located, before the defendant is back in Barron County Circuit Court in Barron on Feb. 6.

 
There has not been any sexual assault charges and it was announced that none were forthcoming. Please do not bring it into the discussion.

Member's stories are heart breaking but please keep personal anecdotes off the thread. Please and thank you.
 
Applauding the Gordon DA decision to uphold Jayme’s privacy first and foremost.
Also thinking that without those additional charges, JP might not be sent to Supermax, as there wouldn’t be the “need” for isolated protection from other inmates. However, as notorious as this crime has become, and as widespread as the assumption of other crimes seems to be, I’m guessing other convicts will draw the same conclusions.
The irony is that JP may be less safe in his new LWOP without those charges.
 
JudgeJoe said:
Applauding the Gordon DA decision to uphold Jayme’s privacy first and foremost.
Also thinking that without those additional charges, JP might not be sent to Supermax, as there wouldn’t be the “need” for isolated protection from other inmates. However, as notorious as this crime has become, and as widespread as the assumption of other crimes seems to be, I’m guessing other convicts will draw the same conclusions.
The irony is that JP may be less safe in his new LWOP without those charges.
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I also feel like it was definitely a much-needed move to protect her privacy. They already have him and she’s been through enough. Also applauding our mods for furthering that respect for Jayme by not allowing discussion about it. IMO
 
Bravo posted:
So you really think in her latter years what her experience after the murder of her Parents is never addressed will just go away? At 13 really?



I have no idea how that question came from what I was saying. No where did I say that she wouldn't address her parents murder. in fact, I said I hoped she would testify against the killer so her voice could be heard. he is charged with a double murder and an abduction. I hope she testifies and does a victim impact statement.

And I have said many times that she needs professional support, counseling and treatment for her long journey.

So I am not sure why the above question is being asked...?
 
MsGazette said:
I also feel like it was definitely a much-needed move to protect her privacy. They already have him and she’s been through enough. Also applauding our mods for furthering that respect for Jayme by not allowing discussion about it. IMO
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Yes. I haven't chimed in yet but was absolutely thrilled to hear of this decision. And surprised.

It's the best possible outcome.

For those saying this takes away Jayme's "voice" or that a very public detailing of what she went through as well as forcing this little girl to endure "the whole process" of a complete prosecution of all possible charges is necessary to her healing or to stop her from feeling shame, I wholeheartedly disagree.

She's a shy, sheltered 13 year old child who now has the opportunity to process and deal with and grieve what has happened without the added trauma of every kid in junior high pouring over details.

Anyone who thinks this decision was made without her input needs to think twice.

Leave her alone.

As to the perp, there is no way he's getting away with this. It's iron clad. He confessed twice - one spontaneously and one after Miranda. There is not one damn thing to indicate he was coerced or gave a false confession. He was found with the surviving eye witness/victim and she divulged what she saw.

Anything that could have gotten him off would've gotten him off on EVERYTHING in both counties. Like insanity.

And not only is there not one shred of evidence to indicate he was insane when he took Jayme and killed her parents, there's everything to indicate he was fully sane.

This is a beautiful decision for a child who needs to grieve and try to move forward.

Finally, we don't need to talk about the statute of limitations for other, uncharged crimes because he's never walking. Period.

But understand that most SOL's for crimes that are typically associated with kidnapping a child are until the victim is 35 or 45 years of age.

Nevertheless, it's irrelevant. Not one reason to struggle with this decision as it is absolutely in the child's best interest for a variety of reasons, IMO.

I think some need to understand that while they are feeling things about this case and maybe really feel they need details, Jayme is the one who went through it. No one else. And she now has the power to decide what, when and if she will discuss it.

A child rendered utterly powerless has been given back some power.

So happy for her and pleased with this outcome.
 
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Does anyone know Wisconsin courts..
Is there a backlog ???

You have murder weapon, confession,
80 plus pieces of evidence...

As of now, no psych evaluation planned or insanity defense...

Do we have estimated trail timeframe.. 1 yr / 2 yr...?
 
gitana1 said:
Yes. I haven't chimed in yet but was absolutely thrilled to hear of this decision. And surprised.

It's the best possible outcome.

For those saying this takes away Jayme's "voice" or that a very public detailing of what she went through as well as forcing this little girl to endure "the whole process" of a complete prosecution of all possible charges is necessary to her healing or to stop her from feeling shame, I wholeheartedly disagree.

She's a shy, sheltered 13 year old child who now has the opportunity to process and deal with and grieve what has happened without the added trauma of every kid in junior high pouring over details.

Anyone who thinks this decision was made without her input needs to think twice.

Leave her alone.

As to the perp, there is no way he's getting away with this. It's iron clad. He confessed twice - one spontaneously and one after Miranda. There is not one damn thing to indicate he was coerced or gave a false confession. He was found with the surviving eye witness/victim and she divulged what she saw.

Anything that could have gotten him off would've gotten him off on EVERYTHING in both counties. Like insanity.

And not only is there not one shred of evidence to indicate he was insane when he took Jayme and killed her parents, there's everything to indicate he was fully sane.

This is a beautiful decision for a child who needs to grieve and try to move forward.

Finally, we don't need to talk about the statute of limitations for other, uncharged crimes because he's never walking. Period.

But understand that most SOL's for crimes that are typically associated with kidnapping a child are until the victim is 35 or 45 years of age.

Nevertheless, it's irrelevant. Not one reason to struggle with this decision as it is absolutely in the child's best interest for a variety of reasons, IMO.

I think some need to understand that while they are feeling things about this case and maybe really feel they need details, Jayme is the one who went through it. No one else. And she now has the power to decide what, when and if she will discuss it.

A child rendered utterly powerless has been given back some power.

So happy for her and pleased with this outcome.
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Thank you. Wonderfully stated.
 
I wanted to reply to Brad's post from the earlier thread:

"Whatever illegal was done, he should have got charged. You never know what can happen on 40 years." "You just never know what the future might hold."

One thing we know do for sure about the future is that if Jayme had to testify to unspeakable acts committed in that house, it's out there forever. There's no taking it back or stopping her name from being associated with those acts, there's no keeping it from her friends and her family, and the rest of the world. And for no real purpose. There is enough evidence to keep him locked up forever, and the addition of other charges adds nothing to the equation except to hurt Jayme further.

It's the right decision, I'm relieved and I'm glad the parties reached it.
 
He was an adult when he executed her parents and kidnapped a 13 year old girl. He'll be locked up for life. No need to make that child suffer more than she already has. It seems sadistic to want her to get up and testify.

I see a lot of the blankstrong hash tags everywhere. To me, it's like forcing a victim to speak out on something they don't want to face again. Some victims will gladly come forward and even offer help to other victims, but many don't want to, and we should be respectful of that. Would it make anyone feel better to hear a poor girl's anguish reliving that hell?
 
As Jayme processes these events and heals as best she can, I truly pray she finds peace within herself. Children at such a vulnerable age cannot always process their feelings and emotions well. It pleases me to know she is surrounded by family and professionals that have her best interests at heart. While she may never feel the need to return to her former home due to the trauma, if by some chance she does, I hope there’s a way to turn it into a refuge of sorts. Perhaps a private, quiet garden with a pond where her and her dog can go, sit silently and feel her parents spirits and love.
 
katydid23 said:
Bravo posted:
So you really think in her latter years what her experience after the murder of her Parents is never addressed will just go away? At 13 really?



I have no idea how that question came from what I was saying. No where did I say that she wouldn't address her parents murder. in fact, I said I hoped she would testify against the killer so her voice could be heard. he is charged with a double murder and an abduction. I hope she testifies and does a victim impact statement.

And I have said many times that she needs professional support, counseling and treatment for her long journey.

So I am not sure why the above question is being asked...?
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My apologies I likely responded to wrong post. Again I do apologize.
 
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