Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #43

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  1. Steleheart

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  2. Caylee Advocate

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    Hopefully he will. For me they are rag-assed just like some of the others. Click bait.
     
  3. Steleheart

    Steleheart Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Under the law, absolutely. People in general seem to think you cannot be told to consider someone guilty but that only applies to Law not free thought. So often we are guilted into not thinking for ourselves.

    I like to explain why we are not subject to social pressure from others.

    For his rights, legal representation, mail, phone calls, a canteen account, visitors, exercise , health care, clean clothes - human rights...
     
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    I couldn't get the article, but yeah - dat soap is slippery. Maybe he needs to hide behind the voices.
     
  5. Caylee Advocate

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    BAM, spot on! I think if a poll were taken on here, most have held public opinion court and we the jury find him GUILTY. MOO
     
  6. Caylee Advocate

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    :D Yeppers :D That dude has some serious issues. IMO
     
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  7. Jim_M

    Jim_M Honest American Bison (Buffalo)

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    From that article:

    "Barron County Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald said the letter "appears" to be from Patterson, but he couldn't say with certainty when contacted by a reporter Tuesday. He said investigators are working to ensure the letter didn't violate Patterson's bond, which prohibits him from contacting Jayme or the Douglas County residents who helped her following her escape last month.

    As long as it's not a bond violation, Patterson has the legal right to write whoever he wants, Fitzgerald said. "

    So, the letter 'could' be from JP. Yep, he has at least one 'fan'. Ugh!
     
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    Same here in Canada, of course we are part of the Commonwealth so we be similar.:)
     
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    Wishful thinking on everyone’s part.

    To me looks like cheap 2$ razors.....
     
  10. Lillymac

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    I was thinking the same. Lol
     
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    Excellent points human...it also mean he’ll be in civi clothes or suit come trial time.

    My fear isn’t he doesn’t get LWOP. My fear is public thought in 30 years. They could feel in 30 years LWOP is cruel and unusual..
    And gain more knowledge on mental defects..thus leading to release in 30 years.

    If u would told somebody in 1980 in 35 yrs from now pot would be legal, trans surgery must be covered by law, and terrorist treatment matters, most would laugh.

    Societies get softer. That one Dutch guy shot 20 kids ? Only 25 yrs in prison... hope to hell we never get that soft.

    Wisconsin needs to revisit death penalty and
    Create a quick path...
     
  12. Caylee Advocate

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    Could have been, darn it. I think a lot of the county jails use them oops maybe he got the recycled ones.
     
  13. JenniD

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    Sheriff Fitzgerald thinks the letter may have been sent to out of state address. Perhaps this person wrote to JP hoping he would reply so they could sell to the tabloids
    Takes all kinds
     
  14. Caylee Advocate

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    So JP is facing:

    2 homicide murder charges= 2 LWOP sentences ... IF FOUND GUILTY

    1 kidnapping charge= up to 40 years max (I think).... IF FOUND GUILTY

    1 aggravated burglary charge= up to 20 years max (I think)..... IF FOUND GUILTY


    I have wondered *why* some judges give multiple life sentences since life is life, (or so I thought) well here is the reasoning behind it.

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    "Suppose, for example, that a defendant is on trial for two murders. The jury convicts him of both, and the judge sentences him to consecutive life sentences. He appeals the convictions and a court overturns one because the prosecution didn’t comply with its discovery obligations. That takes one life sentence off the books—at least until the defendant can be retried. But the other life sentence remains in effect."
     
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    I agree and thought it looked like some mean razor burn. Good, I hope it hurt like hell :p
     
  16. Seattle1

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    The letter appeared to be a reply. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a letter sent to a foreigner either.
     
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    If it were effective then they probably would. However, the opposite is true. Violent crime rates have declined at a higher pace in non-death penalty states than in death penalty states.

    Either way. He's never going to be released.
     
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    Greetings all . . . It’s been a while. Good catching up. JP letter (I’ll wait to comment on that).

    Maybe it’s because of JP’s letter, Sheriff Fitzgerald has announced:


    Received a pop up on my FB page today but I can’t open it as I don’t subscribe to the Barron News-Shield. here’s what I do see . . .

    “New rules in effect for March Patterson court arraignment

    • Bob Zientara
    • 3 hrs ago
    Barron County Circuit Court Judge James C. Babler has issued new rules governing public participation in a case against the Douglas County man accused in connection with the murders of two Barron residents and the abduction of their 13-year-old daughter in October 2018.

    Jake T. Patterson, 21, is scheduled to appear in court to be arraigned on Wednesday, March 27, 2019, in connection with the shooting deaths of James and Denise Closs and the kidnapping of 13-year-old Jayme Closs.”

    Can a subscriber fill us in on what the new rules are?

    New rules in effect for March Patterson court arraignment
     
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    • Anyone entering the courtroom will be searched for weapons, except for staff and on-duty police. No handbags, backpacks, carry-ins or coats will be allowed. Cell phones must be powered off and stowed out of sight. Only designated media will be allowed to use laptops, but reporters are forbidden to record or stream audio or video of the proceedings.

    • The back row on each side of the courtroom will be reserved for media. In the past, this rule has allowed no more than 12 journalists (sitting close together). A live video feed will be offered to media members unable to witness the hearings in person.



    • No more than 48 people will be admitted to the bench seats in the courtroom. Spectators won’t be allowed to “wear clothing or display signs or any other items expressing sympathy or support for either the defendant or victim.”

    • The Sheriff’s Department will take over regulating media parking. There will be reserved spaces for trucks and vans as space allows.

    • As was the case in previous hearings, only Minnesota-based KSTP-TV will be allowed to take video, which will be shared with other media. Two still cameras will be allowed in the courtroom, but the shutters must be silent and flash is prohibited
     
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    I got what you meant but I see how others misconstrued it. You, like me, were responding to he has visitors, can write letters, etc. I knew you mean he could have visitors, mail, etc. People have said he cannot but I have never seen a source cited for that, I disagree. He is in county and not convicted. I don't know how it is in other states but in every state I have ever been in county does not entail high fences, security guard, etc. He is not convicted. Of course, I would think he can have contact with visitors and write any letter he wants (does not mean it would not be screened nor seen) and phone calls (does not mean they are not recorded). I do not doubt RADAR could ask to see him on whatever his visiting hours are. If he agrees, they probably can.

    Haven't caught up with the thread so if addressed already, just ignore.
     
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