AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #14

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  1. DeepThinker

    DeepThinker Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I just have this gut feeling it's going to turn out to be someone local, maybe that she had contact with at school - a stalker type situation. That just sticks with me for some reason. Another thing that gives me the creeps is that while the crime scene goes to the west, in the maps my eyes were drawn to the east, particularly to the veterinarian diagnostic lab, especially large animals. Maps

    eta: Oh, and this was during the time I had "over the river and through the woods" playing over and over in my head. It just creeps me out.

    This was before we knew about the area from Barron to Turtle Creek. btw, why are my letters now green and how do I change them back? :eek:-O:
     
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  2. not.a.muggle

    not.a.muggle Well-Known Member

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    I want to know if James brought a gun to the door with him. I may have posted that last night, I was deliriously tired and can't remember, but it's been on my mind.
     
  3. debirlfan

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    As I said, I don't really live in the country and I wouldn't be alarmed, so maybe, maybe not?
     
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  4. Dum-Dum Sucker

    Dum-Dum Sucker Well-Known Member

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    Me too.

    Until last week, my avatar was a picture of the sweet boy. I had to change it - my heart hurt every time I saw it.
     
  5. DeepThinker

    DeepThinker Well-Known Member

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    We do live in the country, and gunshots are not uncommon - in the daytime. Shots at that time of night are not normal, unless you hear coyotes.
     
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    This may have been pointed out.

    Why in the dispatch log do the police go to St Croix Casino?
     
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    photographer4 Well-Known Member

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    I saw one a little while ago and it had numbers written along the side on the side. Like as if someone marked up where it was damaged or what part would need ordering? Unsure but it made me skeptical that it was involved.
     
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  8. not.a.muggle

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    I think the perp(s) is getting too much credit in here. My belief is that they weren't thinking about much of anything until the 911 call. Someone who would do what they did isn't thinking rationally IMO.
     
  9. not.a.muggle

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    All of the cameras they have outside, I think
     
  10. Stunned

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    That’s what I thought! Except for normally noisey holidays I don’t hear gunshots at night. During the day, during hunting season, yes. Not at night.
     
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  11. GMG1999

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    I feel like they definitely were after Jayme or else they would have killed her there at the house. I so want to believe she is still alive.
     
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    Dum-Dum Sucker Well-Known Member

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    It appears that for both middle schools Jayme attended, the grades were 5-8.
     
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  13. debirlfan

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    I pulled up the house on Google street view. For anyone who hasn't, it's enlightening. The house is set back from the road with trees in front of it. Anyone just driving by would be unlikely to notice someone working or playing in the yard - maybe during the winter with the leaves off, but not during the rest of the year. It is also a good distance from the neighbors, with a lot of trees in between. Doesn't surprise me at all that the neighbors knew little of what went on there (including whether there was a child).
     
  14. OnYourLeft

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    We live in the suburbs, yet one block away from a large canyon. In our neighborhood on any given night we will see coyotes, skunks, opossums, raccoons (as large as dogs), and California grey foxes, bobcats and mountain lions (but usually only on camera as they are incredibly shy except one time a male came into a neighbor’s home in the day - it was quite the event). Hearing gunfire in the middle of the night even with all the wildlife would definitely prompt calls to 911. I have attached a photo of the California grey fox that hangs out in our backyard...this was after it had eaten the neighbors’ free range Thanksgiving turkeys...
     

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  15. DeepThinker

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    until we get a POI or some solid info from LE (haha - not likely) it's very difficult to even establish a motive to explain the brutality of this crime. So until then, we are left to swim in all of our theories and what-if's.
    Okay, enough melodrama, lol :D
     
  16. BlinkOfAnI

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    MY house was built in the 70's and though larger has a similar lay out. Not sure if the door is original but it has 2 thick metal dowels built in that you push down to make it go into the floor. Thats a horrible description but can't think how else to describe it. I always lock the other 2 locks but after all this talk tonight I'll be making sure to use all 3.
     
  17. JDough

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    From above: "Your children and your spouse become your worst enemy, and you truly believe they are after you."

    I can tell you from first hand experience that this is a true statement. My sister and her children were not lucky enough to recognize this could even be a possibility when my BIL became addicted to meth. At one time a very successful man who no one ever dreamed could become a violent and delusional murderer.

    I have witnessed the irrational, unexplained, and violent thoughts and behaviors from someone who suddenly had unexplained superhuman strength.

    Knowing that Jayme most likely witnessed this type of behavior that night has kept me awake more than once. It's the stuff nightmares are made of. Even IF it were someone the family knew- none of them could have ever imagined something like this could happen.

    Time for me to take a little break from the case. I'll check back in from time to time..... and keep praying for Jayme.:)
     
  18. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    BTW, I don't know about the rest of you, but all of a sudden I am seeing orange Challengers everywhere!!!! I live in a "Tesla" kind of area where Challengers are not the demographic car of choice. Nutso!
     
  19. minnphatts

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    Just trying to catch up, but what struck me about the obit from an analysis standpoint is that it plainly states that Denise was preceded in death by James. That might seem like an inconsequential statement, or an obvious fact for those of us that have reviewed this case. But if James was shot first, and Denise only a few minutes later could you conclusively say who died first? I know it's grim business to analyze this, but doesn't that phrasing tell us something new about the crime?

    Perhaps there was an obvious or significant time gap between the two deaths/gun shots? Or was Denise heard still alive on the 911 call? This also informs us that the two gun shots heard by the neighbors, most likely were not the only gun shots in the house that night. I know many of your theories support this timeline, but somehow LE and the family knows conclusively.
     
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  20. BlinkOfAnI

    BlinkOfAnI Well-Known Member

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    I am so sorry. My heart goes out to you and your family.Thank you for sharing.
     
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