AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #26

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  1. Rubiconbob

    Rubiconbob Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think any local cop was involved...

    Do you think it could be cop outside the local area... either active or retired... or military police active or retired.

    Cop or military police gives you access to weapons / ammo/ background knowledge of times to commit crimes.. maybe info on Closs family.

    Cop is unlikely but perp in California killed 10 and raped 40... simply people couldn’t see that done by cop...

    There’s been about 5 sheriff fired in last 2 years because of attempted sex with minor.

    I dunno... trying to figure out what timing was so solid ... and evidence is 0... if it’s meth head he likely wouldn’t be patient.. or that clean ... military police or off duty cop would have a lot of boxes checked..and ability to do clean..

    Ex-Cop Arrested in Decades-Old Golden State Killer Cold Case
     


  2. Irmese

    Irmese Well-Known Member

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    There is a possibility of her still being alive. The family was probably told to say things to her as if they believe she is alive and to try and create some sympathy by the man who has her, to make her human and accentuate that she is a child. That's why they said her dog is waiting for her and that her grandpa wants more of her artwork. They know the guy is probably watching all the news about her.
     
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  3. kebdal23

    kebdal23 Well-Known Member

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    My updated thoughts this week. I wish there was SOMETHING new to go on. But a few years ago, there was someone who knocked on my door late at night around 11:30pm. My husband wasn't home, so it was me and a bunch of little kids. The person kept knocking even though I didn't answer the door or turn any lights on. Our house is small, and I saw through the side window that the motion sensor lights were going off - I could tell he was walking around the house. At that point, I immediately and without hesitation called 911. We live in the suburbs and cops were there within 4 minutes, the 911 operator stayed with me on the phone. It was a guy high on drugs who didn't know WTH he was doing. The cops did NOT turn on their sirens, and they parked around the corner and walked onto my property.
    All this to say...I think that James did NOT answer the door unless it was someone he knew. I think the perp's first shot was to get the door open and the second shot (within seconds according to the neighbor) was at James. All MOO. And I still think the ultimate target was Jayme. I feel this was someone who noticed her and decided to take her. JMO.
     
  4. Rubiconbob

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    Your probably right..47!seconds isn’t long.. but if you’ve got 5/6 words from perp... might give dialect distinct voice... who knows...id rather have dna .. if he confirms that ... be big relief... that would make it when not if... plus people sound odd when they yell... no desire to hear jayme painfully scream.. if that’s there
     
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  5. Rosiebones

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    I would like to know from the family, who they think did it.
     
  6. MingyMoo

    MingyMoo Well-Known Member

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    Maybe! The general consensus is they went to the wrong home and were probably just as stunned as we were, however, they aren't picking up the pieces we are! as are our family, friends & neighbors.
     
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  7. DutchTreat

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    I don't think cop or ex cop. But something ex military. Get in, 'get the job done', get out. Calm, collected, prepared and intelligent. And I do think some 'off the grid' guy/doomsday prepper person.
     
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  8. Lillymac

    Lillymac Well-Known Member

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    A list of the tips they received.
     
  9. Mistermagoo

    Mistermagoo Well-Known Member

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    now
    My rules are like the rules for Aladdin
    "Ixnay on the wishing for more wishes"
    kind of falls in that catagory
     
  10. DutchTreat

    DutchTreat Well-Known Member

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    That would also fit with my police scanner theory.
    Monitor the enemy's communication and get out before they show up.
     
  11. Trino

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    I think many of us have pieced those pieces together. Just gotta be careful what you say.
     
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  12. CocoChanel

    CocoChanel Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Do we have any locals on Jayme’s thread?
    I have not been able to keep up post by post.
    Would be great if we did have some folks from close by.
     
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  13. cluciano63

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    Jmo in a more recent interview the sheriff admitted he only hoped that Jayme was alive...but that he had no reason to believe either way.
     
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    TMI :D
     
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  15. DancingMuse

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    One of My First "?"'s would be:
    How many shots were fired total, based on how many casings were found at the residence?
     
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    I wonder if the panty thief had not gone into the house, if someone else would have, and how soon. The announcement that cameras alerted LE he was there blew that secret pretty quick. Ive never heard of LE putting cameras inside a place like that so Im curious who they thought would be coming in.
     
  17. JRW

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    im still thinking that it was someone they knew... maybe someone came home with James for a beer after work?... maybe someone came to the door? Denise talked to her sister at 10 and dodnt mention anyone was there so i doubt it was anyone that was visiting with Denisr and Jayme
     
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  18. OhThatVictoria

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    One doesn’t like to think of the possibility that it could be a cop but it’s a numbers game and there are bad apples (as a percentage) in all groups. Early on, after an initial suicide suspicion, my next thought was a LE raid on the wrong house. (Google: Police Raid Wrong House - it does happen.). Now that is a possibility we don’t want to think about because it would mean this is all a cover-up (which I am not suggesting). But I did think it, initially . . . Must be the City Mouse coming out in me (Chicago and all that).
     
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  19. Lillymac

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    I agree!!
     
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    Just sharing so MTO and possibly in outer space. With nothing new to go on the last few weeks and few similar cases to compare I've been searching what would compare to finding a needle in a haystack. Everything from whether registered sex offenders in the area are in compliance to criminal histories to court records, to cold cases, to basically anything I could think of that might spark a brain cell. It's like throwing random scraps in a blender and hoping it produces something. The only thing I found was the Lac du Flambeau unsolved murder case of Susan Pourpart which occurred 28 years ago. An article from 2017 did catch my eye. Susan's cousin made this comment and felt he knew who the perp was, "If you say anything about anything, they're gonna affect you," Poupart said. "They're gonna take away your job, they're gonna take away your house, they're gonna take away your kids or they're gonna take away your health." Not sure what that means but it reminded me of that TMZ (?) article posted many threads ago where the man was telling a young girl from Barron (paraphrasing) that there were bodies buried out there no one knew about. The only reason I was reminded of the article was because I somehow got the impression this man and his buddy were older and while the Pourpart case is 28 years old a perp could have been 20 at the time and would only be 48 now. For what it's worth hat's pretty much all I have from random weeks of searching. That and one nearby registered sex offender who was not in compliance but not named as a POI so I can't post his info. Here is the article from 2017 if anyone is interested:Murder of Susan Poupart remains unsolved - The Lakeland Times
    ETA cousin statement and have to wonder about the 3 men who have been POI's in Pourpart's murder. I believe one was incarcerated at the time of the Closs murders via court records.
     
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