AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #3

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  1. alyssa5597

    alyssa5597 Well-Known Member

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    This. Totally agree. For all we know and honestly what seems more accurate based on what we know of Jayme so far, she could have just been immature for her age in terms of having responsibilities and her parents weren't confident she could take care of herself alone, or it was better for them to have someone home with her to drive her to activities. It could be nothing more than mom and dad just weren't comfortable leaving her alone yet, she's only 13. If parents worked all the time, maybe they simply just didn't want Jayme to spend so much time alone.
     
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  2. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    BBM. Not necessarily. I tend to think an "only child" can be less mature because they are the center of attention. They don't have any younger siblings to learn how to care for or older siblings that they have to learn how to get along with. No one to compete with or challenge them into maturity. And adults may spoil an "only child" because they are a miracle baby they never expected to be able to have (I don't know if that's the case here but just giving it as an example). And as far as only being with adults-- all indications to me are that Jayme's parents tried to enroll her in team activities with peers her age-- dance and cross country running, for examples. Those things don't make her mature or not mature though. What I see from the few pieces of info we have been given from friends and family is that she is more on the child side of 13 than the teen side (the age where kids may start to challenge boundaries and try to act older than they really are). We heard she is "sweet" and "quiet". Looking at her photos we see she doesn't wear lots of make-up, she doesn't style her hair or wear clothes that are more adult than her years. She isn't yet to the point of taking those selfies we see all over social media with pouty lips or sexy poses. And even if she did these things it wouldn't be wrong, but her photos seem to indicate she hadn't gotten into that phase of being a teen yet. She smiles at the camera when someone takes a pic and her smile seems shy to me. I see an innocent child who is barely 13 and not mature or even trying to be mature. I worry she caught the attention of a predator not because of anything she did or said but because of her still looking like a child and having a childlike innocence. JMO. :(
     
  3. Saribella

    Saribella Well-Known Member

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    They probably know who it is and think they can slip up by talking about details of the event in itself.
     
  4. PommyMommy

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    The article stated "family caretaker." The word "caretaker" may be a poor word choice, as some are assuming it means "babysitter." This could simply be someone who helps by providing transportation and/or who has been responsible for babysitting in the past. If Jayme's parents had conflicting or changing schedules, it makes sense to have a "caretaker" to fill in for them when necessary.
    MOO
     
  5. perfectingpink

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    This is a good point. I believe it was stated this person was the family caregiver and I would think if this person was for Jayme, the would have indicated that specifically.
     
  6. MissMalowe

    MissMalowe Well-Known Member

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    I was leaning more towards the proactive or reactive angle; in other words, were her parents overprotective/simply gone a lot/weird hours for work
    OR
    were they attempting to keep a bf away, had she recently become afraid of staying alone for a specific reason? Was she fearful of something or someone? Were her parents?
     
  7. rainynights

    rainynights Well-Known Member

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    Paul Blume on Twitter

    Just spotted the big FBI Mobile Command Center in Barron. Haven't seen this vehicle before. We're told the #JaymeCloss search operation is a 24-7 effort with 100+ state, federal & local personnel ready to respond immediately to any tip that comes in.
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  8. LietKynes

    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science" Liet Kynes

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    Marking my spot.
    Was hoping for better news today. :(

    Respectfully..... Is it possible someone thought Jayme's parents were bad or abusive... and wanted to "rescue" Jayme from them ?
    The saddest part of this possible scenario is that her parents cannot defend themselves (from any accusations, that is.) !!
    Just getting a horrible, evil vibe about what went down that night or early morning.
    Sometimes a young person may contact an online "friend" or even a relative, and magnify a perceived situation-- all out of proportion.
    Or a child (sorry-- to me a 13 yr. old is still a like a kid) says they just need to get away.
    And a misfit (obviously , given what has happened) goes in to be a twisted sort of 'hero'.
     
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    Have any blood/DNA samples been taken from the house that would match that of JC if that is reported then we have some more info?
     
  10. Le Singe

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    personally i think its this (think caffey family type deal). or some long random wackjob pedophile like matthew hoffmann.

    i don't get the ppl saying drugs? what type of drug dealer is slaving away for the man at the turkey factory?
     
  11. NervousNellie

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    You are referring to a post made by a WS member who described that situation for his/her parents growing up.
     
  12. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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    The next press conference update in the case of missing & endangered 13 year old Jayme Closs is today (10/17/18), at 4pm at the Barron County Sheriff’s Department,1420 State Hwy 25, Barron, WI.

    FBI Milwaukee on Twitter
     
  13. Le Singe

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    Not saying its what happened for sure but this is certainly a plausible theory IMO.
     
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  14. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    ah

    first time I saw these

    i think this is a regular pillow thing - why would one need to tie someone from the FRONT of the chair ??

    I would also think maybe that was the way they found it -- violent struggle?

    there would be no reason (would be really bad actually) for forensics to separate stuff - ie not preserve it intact

    possibly more like a victim struggling to get up and accidently pulled the pillow off??
     
  15. katydid23

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    Yes, I am thinking it was something like this. She had no idea what he really had in mind and it went sideways really fast. JMO
     
  16. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    but that counters the reports that she was very busy in other activities -- did the change in school (has to be initiated by someone) occur the same time as she was with a caregiver
     
  17. andreww

    andreww Former Member

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    In the recent Dellen Millard case in Toronto, police were only able to get texts from phones, recovering deleted messages from phones, and from phone backups saved to computers. The only info from phone company was that a text message or reply was sent or received from a certain number. No content was retrieved.
     
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    Jumping off of this post... If you think a post is violating TOS please report. If you disagree and choose to respond, do so respectfully and at a certain point you may have to agree to disagree. Tangents which are not productive to the discussion of this case can result in warnings, timeouts, or closing the thread. Thanks,
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  19. katydid23

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    That's why the theory about a boyfriend---either online or in real life--makes more sense to me. That would explain why she was taken along after the murders, JMO, IMO.
     
  20. Celt1997

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    Or, could it be the opposite? Jayme's parents discovered someone else was abusing her and the "other person" decided to end things before a confrontation initiated by the parents?
     
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