Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by JerseyGirl, Oct 15, 2018.
IMHO this looks like a split level to me
To breech an exterior door with a shotgun you need to blast apart the door jam and will be something very visible even in the limited pics we’ve seen.
I was not getting on you. I found it funny but others might not which is why I said something. I only asked because In Delaware I’ve never seen them in pawn shops
Yes it looks like the garage is under the house and possibly a small room at the other end.
As far as the questions about if houses have basements:
Unless you know otherwise, the answer is yes. 99% of houses have basements up here. We don't have the same issues with high water tables that say Florida does. Meanwhile you need to dig down 6 feet or so in order to put foundations below the frost line. Not too much extra expense to dig down a few more feet and put a basement in. Basements vary from dingy cellars with concrete walls and floors where you have to duck under pipes, and only use to go down to do your laundry and store your stuff, to fully finished living spaces depending on the age and price level of the house and the initiative of the owners.
I was just replying about it’s possible to breach a front door with a shotgun. I personally didn’t see the door pictures but I’ll take the word for it
Also, Barron County property info is available at barroncowi.wgextreme.com Jame's parcel ID: 006-3000-08-000 for anyone looking for it.
You’ve done this? Wow. Makes me wonder why I wasted so much time training with battering rams.
Yes, I mean the "walk-in" basement would be considered the basement. At least that is what I would call it, having grown up in the upper Midwest myself. I think the basement was likely accessed through the garage as well as by a stairway, probably in the kitchen. I don't think there is a level under the basement - that would be unusual.
Looks like the house has a ground floor (accessed by the front door) and then a level under it, called, imo, a basement.
Agree I saw it on the door in a video yesterday about 2.5-3’ tall.
I saw a few people mentioning similarities between this and the 2005 case of Shasta and Dylan Groene. I agree, plus also the 1999 case of Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible. The Groene children were taken to neighboring state Montana, and although I don't believe it's been confirmed, a number of witnesses have said that the perps in Ashley and Lauria's case may have taken them to another part of OK. I'm thinking there's a good possibility that Jayme is NOT still in the vicinity of Barron. I'm in Minnesota, so I am definitely on alert. She of course could be anywhere, but southern WI, southeastern MN, northeastern IA, northern IL are particular areas to pay attention to IMO. It's great that her case is nationwide but my fellow Midwesterners need to be on particularly high alert and pay close attention!
Commonly referred to as a "daylight basement" in some areas.
Guns in Wisconsin can be bought at Gun Shows. The sellers must have a legal license to sell. They can be bo0ught at pawn shops too. Once again they have to have a license to sell & anyone buying them must not have any convictions.
Yelling. Not screaming, but yelling.
Thanks that answers that question.
LE did say no guns were found in the house. We can't say with 100% certainty that anyone in the family owned guns, but we know Mr. Closs was a hunter. So there is a pretty good chance Mr. Closs owned at least one firearm for hunting. Perhaps the perp was ransacking the house during those 22 minutes, and found Mr. Closs' gun. If the gun was in a safe or otherwise locked away it may have taken some time.
My guess is that the bedrooms, bathroom, kitchen, and living room are on the main floor.
Underneath (the basement) is the garage, possibly a small bathroom, laundry area and another room (rec room, workroom, bedroom, etc.).
I don't think it's a split-level with bedrooms upstairs and living area down.
The family likely went in the house quite often through the garage after parking the car there. My guess is they entered the basement and then took the stairs which would bring them to the kitchen/living room.
But, I'm just guessing.
Odd that the police chief would say he was 100% certain that Jayme was still alive.
That would be odd if he'd said it. He did not. There's extensive discussion earlier clarifying his answer during the press conference. moo
AMBER ALERT - WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #3
Good point. Imo screaming would be out of fear, yelling would be anger or control.